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2024 Presidential Primaries and Election

Biden is going to get 10s of millions of votes, got the most votes in history last election but this dumb as fuck geriatric thinks he is smarter than all those millions of people and someone else should run because I guess feelings lol.
 
Andy Beshear had his own election to run that just ended less than a month ago, and Josh Shapiro has been governor for all of five minutes. (Shapiro definitely has higher ambitions, but he needs a resume as governor first.)
 
It's people like yourself; the Biden cronies
As a genuine question, who are the Biden cronies?

To start with, the word crony would imply some sort of dishonest or criminal behavior. Also, I don't even know who the hardcore Biden supporters are, or if they even exist. Biden's support base is primarily people who understand that replacing an incumbent president who wants to run is usually a losing strategy.
 
the question to Pops as always is “who would you rather be president - Biden or Trump” and he can never just sack up and admit it’s Biden so that’s the reason we keep having the discussion.

Not saying that’s the case for every one of our conservative posters but Pops professes a multi decade long hatred for Trump so the answer seems pretty clear for him.
 
I continue to enable him? Really?? Do you do stand-up on the weekends??
It's people like yourself; the Biden cronies and the Democratic Leadership who continue to nominate political hacks in 2016, 2020 & now again in 2024. Hacks who are bought and paid for and make the before mentioned races competitive when there is no way in hell they should be. And the thought that I wouldn't vote against Dump with an adequate Candidate is equally ignorant.
Yes everybody has a hypothetical candidate that will dominate an election.
 
As a genuine question, who are the Biden cronies?

To start with, the word crony would imply some sort of dishonest or criminal behavior. Also, I don't even know who the hardcore Biden supporters are, or if they even exist. Biden's support base is primarily people who understand that replacing an incumbent president who wants to run is usually a losing strategy.
what, you've never heard of the BIDEN CRIME SYNDICATE?
 
I still want to hear why, aside from age, Biden isn't the best candidate for the job?

He's defeated Trump already, done a lot with his four years, and has the power of the incumbency/full fundraising capability of the Democratic Party at his disposal.
 
The polls would be a pretty good reason to think Biden is not the best candidate. The problem is, we are probably too late to switch and there is nobody else anywhere close to vetted.
 
For a guy who isn't running, Newsome is going to be very high profile this week with his debate against DeSantis.
 
Oh shit. That's still happening?
 
Gavin Newsom has been pretty actively trying to increase his national profile for months. I got his promoted "sign here to endorse my proposed constitutional amendment" social media posts all summer.
 

Nikki Haley (actually, Republican policy generally) Is Coming for Your Retirement


It feels like years ago, but actually only a few months have passed since many big Republican donors seemed to believe that Ron DeSantis could effectively challenge Donald Trump for the Republican nomination. It has been an edifying spectacle — an object lesson in the reality that great wealth need not be associated with good judgment, about politics or anything else.

At this point, both conventional wisdom and prediction marketssay that Trump has a virtual lock on the nomination. But Wall Street isn’t completely resigned to Trump’s inevitability; there has been a late surge in big-money support for Nikki Haley, the former governor of South Carolina. And there is, to be fair, still a chance that Trump — who is facing many criminal charges and whose public rants have become utterly unhinged — will manage to crash and burn before securing the nomination.

So it seems worth looking at what Haley stands for.

From a political point of view, one answer might be: nothing. A recent Times profile described her as having “an ability to calibrate her message to the moment.” A less euphemistic way to put this is that she seems willing to say whatever might work to her political advantage. “Flip-flopping” doesn’t really convey the sheer cynicism with which she has shifted her rhetoric and changed her positions on everything from abortion rights to immigration to whether it’s OK to try overturning a national election.

And anyone hoping that she would govern as a moderate if she should somehow make it to the White House is surely delusional. Haley has never really shown a willingness to stand up to Republican extremists — and at this point the whole G.O.P. has been taken over by extremists.

That said, Haley has shown some consistency on issues of economic and fiscal policy. And what you should know is that her positions on these issues are pretty far to the right. In particular, she seems exceptionally explicit, even among would-be Republican nominees, in calling for an increase in the age at which Americans become eligible for Social Security — a bad idea that seems to be experiencing a revival.


So let’s talk about Social Security.

The first thing you should know about Social Security is that the actual numbers don’t justify the apocalyptic rhetoric one often hears, not just from the right but from self-proclaimed centrists who want to sound serious. No, the exhaustion of the system’s trust fund, currently projected to occur in roughly a decade, wouldn’t mean that benefits disappear.

It would mean that the system would need additional revenue to continue paying scheduled benefits in full. But the extra revenue required would be smaller than you probably think. The most recent long-term projections from the Congressional Budget Office show Social Security outlays rising to 6.2 percent of gross domestic product in 2053 from 5.1 percent this year, not exactly an earth-shattering increase.

It’s true that the budget office projects a much bigger rise in spending on Medicare and other major health programs. But much of this projected rise reflects the assumption that medical costs will rise much faster than economic growth, which has been true in the past but need not be true in the future. Indeed, since 2010, Medicare spending has been far less than expected. And there is every reason to believe that smart policies could further curb health care costs, given how much more America spends than other wealthy nations.

Still, Social Security does face a funding gap. How should it be closed?

Anyone who says, as Haley does, that the retirement age should rise in line with increasing life expectancy is being oblivious, perhaps willfully, to the grim inequality of modern America. Until Covid struck, average life expectancy at 65, the relevant number, was indeed rising. But these gains were concentrated among Americans with relatively high incomes. Less affluent Americans — those who depend most on Social Security — have seen little rise in life expectancy, and in some cases actual declines.
So anyone invoking rising life expectancy as a reason to delay Social Security benefits is, in effect, saying that aging janitors must keep working (or be cast into extreme poverty) because bankers are living longer.

How, then, should the Social Security gap be closed? The obvious answer — which happens to be favored by a majority of voters — is to raise more revenue. Remember, America collects less revenueas a percentage of G.D.P. than almost any other advanced economy.

But Haley, of course, wants to cut income taxes.

My guess is that none of this will be relevant, that Trump will be the nominee. But if he stumbles, I would beg political reporters not to focus on Haley’s personal affect, which can seem moderate, but rather on her policies. On social issues and the fate of democracy, she appears to be a pure weather vane, turning with the political winds. On fiscal and economic policy, she’s a hard-right advocate of tax cuts for the rich and benefit cuts for the working class. If calling someone a “populist” has any meaning these days, she’s the exact opposite.
 
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