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Avengers Endfinity Wargame Mafia; MAFIA WINS

Gooner said:
Knight (6) - BBD, dv7, Juice, ryala, Ph, Nonny
GAT (4) - rommy, damo, gouda, SD3
bern (3) - mako, Knight, tim
Da (3) - redwing, GoalieMom, tcc
numbers (2) - bym, toogs
rommy (1) - Da
damo (1) - Eagles
dv7 (1) - Townie
Ph (1) - WFU03
bym (1) - JMan
gouda (1) - GAT
Nonny (1) - bern
tim (1) - shiny
shiny (1) - numbers

YTV: None

1 min
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Gooner said:
JMan (8) - Da, toogs, BBD, ryala, GAT, dv7, WFU03, redwing
WFU03 (7) - rommy, Eagles, shiny, damo, SD3, JMan, tim
shiny (6) - numbers, tcc, gouda, Juice, bym, mako
dv7 (1) - Townie
numbers (1) - GoalieMom
mako (1) - bern
mako (1) - Ph
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Gooner said:
Townie (8) - rommy, Da, Juice, Eagles, gouda, tim, GAT, numbers
WFU03 (6) - SD3, GoalieMom, mako, redwing, tcc, dv7
redwing (2) - bern, toogs
Juice (1) - WFU03
gouda (1) - bym
GoalieMom (1) - shiny
GAT (1) - damo
dv7 (1) - Ph
Da (1) - ryala
Ph (1) - Townie

DNV: None

PM if issues. You have 3 min.
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Gooner said:
dv7 (11) - GoalieMom, Ph, rommy, bern, Juice, numbers, SD3, redwing, mako, GAT, bym
toogs (3) - Da, ryala, shiny
Ph (1) - toogs
redwing (1) - dv7
shiny (1) - tcc

DNV: Eagles, tim, WFU03

Due to majo, no votes for Eagles, tim, and WFU03 will not count against them
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for reference
 
Screamindemon3 said:
Mako and GAT both had very late votes on dv7 once the majo was pretty obvious, both felt the need to explain their decisions in a defensive tone as well. I would be fine going with either one, with priority towards GAT
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Yet you vote tcc? Makes sense.
 
DaDeacs said:
Tim might not have been the RB on eagles. Its definitely possible he is mafia and lying, the other option is there is a civ jailer.
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Eagles could also be a civ and lying. Not out of the question for eagles to write some poetry
 
DaDeacs said:
Tim might not have been the RB on eagles. Its definitely possible he is mafia and lying, the other option is there is a civ jailer.
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Tim was not (the only) RB on Eaglez. Tim’s power has a 1 night cool down.
 
curious about some of the one-off votes that involve known mafia:

shiny voted tim day 1

ph voted dv7 day 3

dv7 voted redwing day 4
 
Eagles_Legendz said:
I am being informed I'm roleblocked. Mafia usually can't roleblock consecutive nights and I'm as likely as anyone to have a watcher on me if there's a watcher, so I'm assuming I'm being jailed which usually has the same info being provided.
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Help me understand. Is there a civ roleblocker and they are taking turns?
 
timdunkandthefunk said:
i like townie over redwing or 03.

***townie***
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o_O

This was the vote count just before the maf_tim vote on maf_townie, which was with 10 mins left in the round:

Townie (6) - rommy, Da, Juice, Eagles, gouda, dv7
redwing (5) - GAT, bern, toogs, Townie, tcc
WFU03 (4) - SD3, GoalieMom, mako, redwing
Juice (2) - numbers, WFU03
GoalieMom (1) - shiny
GAT (1) - damo
gouda (1) - bym
dv7 (1) - Ph

YTV: ryala

Around 7 min left
 
romanovKU said:
Eagles roleblock jailing thesis

As a preface: if someone has been roleblocked besides eagles, please say so. Would affect the following:

Six possible universes exist in my mind. I’ve never seen an Indy with roleblock:

1. Eagles is civ / mafia roleblock
2. Eagles is Indy / mafia roleblock
3. Eagles is mafia / mafia roleblock
4. Eagles is civ / civ jailing
5. Eagles is Indy / civ jailing
6. Eagles is mafia / civ jailing
7. Eagles is civ / no roleblock
8. Eagles is Indy / no roleblock
9. Eagles is maf / no roleblock

1. Mafia doesn’t know the setup so they can’t know if we have a watcher. Therefore they wouldn’t want to stick their roleblocker out in the wind like that 3 nights in a row. Small chance it is an unwatchable roleblock but I’ve never seen that before and seems overpowered if it can be used on the same person consecutively.
2. Same as #1 + civs are getting lucky.
3. This was one of two reasons I started drafting this post. Using the watcher existence logic from #1, this would be a long con play that would get their roleblocker sacrificed, but nearly clear eagles. That said, eagles would likely get hit on a cop investigation. We know there is a godfather in the game so unless we never see a godfather flip otherwise, we are probably safe here because it wouldn’t make sense to sac the rb for a non-gf eagles. If a gf never flips and a mafia rb flips and eagles is alive late, ice his ass.
4. There’s no logic to disprove this. 4-6 are equally likely. Only downside is if Eagles is a powerful civ. Cop should have a report on eagles so should be fine.
5. There’s no logic to disprove this. 4-6 are equally likely. Cop should have a report on eagles so should be fine.
6. There’s no logic to disprove this. 4-6 are equally likely. Cop should have a report on eagles so should be fine.
7. This was the other reason I started drafting this post. Eagles right away claimed he could be jailed d2 which seemed weird to me. I would think the optimal play, if eagles is actually jailed, would be to stay quiet and hope he is jailed again and mafia tries to hit him, causing a miss hit. Yet he claims it. This is an amazing poetry play I wish I thought of if Eagles is faking these jailings. There’d be no way for maf to know unless they had a watcher themselves, which is unlikely but not impossible. I’d say it would be worth the risk as civ-eagles to try to stay alive by claiming a fake jailing. That said, that is 100% my play style and not really eagles.
8. Same as 7 only if Indy, the mfer has a bullet proof vest probably and this jail claim is how he is planning on explaining surviving a night hit. It would also obfuscate the would-be miss hit in mafia’s eyes. Would be a “home run” play if he avoids being watched but prob not too likely.
9. Same as 8 but I see super low utility in it since we should have a watcher and mafia typically needs “singles” and not “home runs” to win.

I post this to call people’s attention to possibilities #3, #7 and maybe #8. All of this said, I’m tabling eagles because occam says we are dealing with #4-6 and a cop has a report on his alignment and none of this matters.
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read^
 
Shinyman said:
Help me understand. Is there a civ roleblocker and they are taking turns?
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I mean, that would be a weird coordination. If eagles isnt lying, and his read of what is happening is correct, he is getting jailed - cant be killed at night and his powers dont work. That is likely different than an odd night mafia roleblocker. No one else claiming roleblock is weird, I will give you that, but its not unheard of to not be told if you are roleblocked.
 
I still think the trio I mentioned before (dv7, gat, tcc) might have another mafia in it. I also wonder if redwing was getting protected by them as well.

I'd like to see gat get some love for now and hear more though.

***gat***
 
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