Banning Critical Race Theory

[birdman]

Please repost in the hot memes thread.

 

[ConnorEl]

“They will shock you.”


Ho boy.

 

[06deacon]

Weird question, but does JH even agree that the we should ban CRT (whatever it even means)?

It’s junebug but anyway I don’t think him or jh think crt is a big deal. Or even a small deal. They’re just calculating that any fallout from this controversy is worth it to rile up their horrible base. So they have to defend it.

 

[PhDeac]

It’s junebug but anyway I don’t think him or jh think crt is a big deal. Or even a small deal. They’re just calculating that any fallout from this controversy is worth it to rile up their horrible base. So they have to defend it.

I agree. I think that's the basic college educated wealthy Republican take on culture issues. They're willing to feed whatever red meat to the base to keep their judges and tax cuts.

 

[WFFaithful]

The statute prohibits teaching that meritocracies or the very concept of a "hard work ethic" were created by White people to keep Black people down. I tend to think more highly of Black people than that, and I don't think we should be teaching our children concepts that will undermine their success in the real world.

You want to ban CRT to protect Blacks? Was slavery or Jim Crow or the Black Codes also for their own good? Holy shit, man. Let's not accurately present the role of white racists in our country because we need to protect black people. No. You think so little of Black people that you don't believe that they can handle it, ignoring the fact that they live it out every day.

 

[Shooshmoo]

Do docs from the classroom qualify? I'm sure the 3rd grade classroom enjoyed story time from "This Book is Antiracist".

1. Facts.
2. Sounds like they stopped it anyway
3. CA, so not going to ban CRT (at least the state isn't). They only do that in backwards states ranked in the bottom 5-10 in education where white supremacy already reigns and no one is getting taught facts like this anyway.
4. Overbroad banning of "CRT" by white supremacists (who are not smart enough to understand it and just think no one should be taught about race or privilege) because #anecdote is like killing a mosquito with a hand grenade.
4. Facts.

 

[Highland Deac]

As for the post from Angus "exposing" CRT being taught in elementary school, here is a quote from Mr. Rufo's Twitter feed: "I am fighting against critical race theory through investigative reporting, policy advocacy, and legal warfare. If you want to support this work, you can make a $5 or $10 monthly contribution here" (links to a "Support My Work" site). Looks like Mr. Rufo is set to make some sweet cash from his heroic fight against CRT.

 

[Shooshmoo]

The statute prohibits teaching that meritocracies or the very concept of a "hard work ethic" were created by White people to keep Black people down. I tend to think more highly of Black people than that, and I don't think we should be teaching our children concepts that will undermine their success in the real world.

LOL. I can't believe this asshat posted this. It may be his most ridiculous post ever, which is saying something.

 

[ConnorEl]

You want to ban CRT to protect Blacks? Was slavery or Jim Crow or the Black Codes also for their own good? Holy shit, man. Let's not accurately present the role of white racists in our country because we need to protect black people. No. You think so little of Black people that you don't believe that they can handle it, ignoring the fact that they live it out every day.

Actually, he thinks so little of the privileged class, that they can’t handle the truth.

Maybe…but I think it’s more a preference than a disability.

 

[DeaconSig]

I look forward to Brad posting more bombshells from Mr. Rufo. This one shook me to my core.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

I look forward to Brad posting more bombshells from Mr. Rufo. This one shook me to my core.

 

[Kory]

started watching Rufo's "documentary" on CRT and lol'd when he said the Frankfurt school wrote in response to the "social and racial unrest of the 1960s"

it's like people don't want to understand things (a Wiki will show you how wrong that is) they just want to be angry

 

[deactherunner]

 

[PhDeac]

Good read.

[h=1]The Complete List of Marxist, Un-American, Anti-White Things (According to White People)[/h][h=2]Long before Critical Race Theory or the 1619 Project, white America used the term 'Marxist,' 'Communist' and 'Un-American' to condemn Black movements.[/h]
https://www.theroot.com/the-complete-list-of-marxist-un-american-anti-white-t-1847105169


In 1944, William Terry Couch, a “fair-minded, progressive Southerner,” who served as the director of the University of North Carolina Press, along with white “racial liberal” sociologist Guy Johnson, had an idea for a book outlining the concerns of Black America. He enlisted Rayford Logan, a brilliant Howard University history professor, to compile a series of essays called What the Negro Wants. The list of contributors featured the who’s who of Black thinkers, including poet Langston Hughes, W.E.B Du Bois—one of the founders of modern sociology—and labor organizer A. Philip Randolph, who forced the U.S. military to desegregate and later went on to organize a little event called the March on Washington.
When the white liberals saw the initial draft of essays, they thought it was outrageous. The list of demands was insane. They had written about full equality, desegregation and even civil rights! There was no way these were the people who represented Black America.
“I had been hoping that at least two or three of the 15 authors would raise the question of how far the negroes is responsible for his condition and deal with the problem of what negroes can now, regardless of what white people may do,” Couch wrote to Logan. “The things negroes are represented as wanting seem to be far removed from what they ought to want. Most of the things they are represented as wanting can be summarized in the phrase: complete abolition of segregation. If this is what the negro wants, nothing could be clearer than that what he needs, and needs most urgently, is to revise his wants.”
So to balance the book from these radical left-leaning negroes, they sought out a prominent, “conservative, inter-racial cooperation type,” and settled on Mary McLeod Bethune. A reformer who worked with President Franklin Roosevelt for Black economic equality, Bethune was not known for being vocal about segregation or the “separate but equal” policy. She agreed to contribute an essay about the violent protests against police brutality in Detroit and Harlem. She began her essay by calling out the “band of hoodlums” who “challenge law and order to burn and pillage and rob.” Then she explained why this thuggish violence was an American tradition, writing:

Just as the Colonists at the Boston Tea Party wanted out from under tyranny and oppression and taxation without representation, the Chinese want “out,” The Indians want “out,” and the colored Americans want out.
Throughout America today, many people are alarmed and bewildered by the manifestation of this world ferment among the Negro masses. We say we are living in a period of “racial tension”... The tension rises out of the growing internal pressure of Negro masses to break through the wall of restrictions which restrains them from full American citizenship. This mounting power is met by the unwillingness of white Americans to allow any appreciable breach in this wall.

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And just like that, the woman who had built an entire university from $1.50, the woman who created the “Black Cabinet” that came up with many ideas for the New Deal, the woman who saved the program that gave us the Tuskegee Airmen, the best friend of the president’s wife, just because she said racism existed, Mary McLeod Bethune became a communist.
Bethune’s name appeared in six reports in the House Committee on Un-American Activities and five times in Senate reports on people suspected of communist activity. While she was cleared of any involvement, the message was clear: Confronting racism and white supremacy is un-American.
....


But while I’m waiting, I came up with a list of Black movements, people and ideas who were called anti-white, communist, Marxist or Un-American simply for wanting Black people to exist.

[h=3]Anti-Lynching Movement[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It hurts white people. Plus, Black people be raping.[/h]
[h=3]Affirmative Action[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It was anti-white, communist and would take white people’s jobs.[/h]
[h=3]Black Lives Matter[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It was racist, communist and Marxist because all lives matter.[/h]
[h=3]The Black Panther Party[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It was scary. Also, the word “Black” is right there.[/h]
[h=3]Black People Voting[/h][h=4]Why white people don’t like it: States’ rights, something something, communism, something something it was a different time.[/h]
[h=3]Black Women[/h][h=4]Why white people don’t like them: Because they are un-American, communist, anti-white and don’t keep their mouths shut.[/h]Amelia Boynton. Callie Guy House. Ida B. Wells. Mary McLeod Bethune. Ilhan Omar. Rosa Parks. Ella Baker. Josephine Baker. Michelle, Sasha and Malia Obama. Nikole Hannah-Jones. Serena Williams. Young Black girls. Old Black women. Pregnant Black women. Babies who aren’t just born.
[h=3]Critical Race Theory[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: Because they don’t know what it is.[/h]This one is easy.
The one thing that dumbfounds me about white supremacy is how much white people trust each other. They just trust the explanations for their fellow white people. In all this debate about CRT, I have yet to see one person who opposes CRT who can also explain what CRT is. And many of the legislators who are against funding K-12 teachers who absolutely do not teach CRTare already funding the leaders’ movement, such as Richard Delgado, the professor at state-supported Alabama Law School who wrote a little book called Critical Race Theory: An Introduction.
All they know is that it has the word “race” in it, so it must be bad.


[h=3]The Civil Rights Movement[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It was communist, anti-white and had the word “rights” in it.[/h]Legislators opposed the Civil Rights Act because it was “Marxist.” The House Committee on Un-American Activities investigated the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee for communism. The FBI did, too.
In a 1964 New York Times survey, a majority of white people said that the “Negro civil rights movement had gone too far,” and a quarter of those people said their resentment was growing. They were right. Two years later, a 1966 Harris Survey, revealed that 85 percent of white respondents thought civil rights demonstrations “hurts the negro.”
Apparently, to white people, fighting racism is worse than racism.
[h=3]Angela Davis[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like her: She had an afro. She was a member of the Communist Party. Mostly it was about her afro.[/h]
[h=3]W.E.B. Dubois[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like him: He was smart, Black and used the word “white people” a lot.[/h]
And if you think I’m kidding about white people not thinking Black people were smart, according to the National Opinion Research Center, it was not until 1963 that 50 percent of white people believed “Negroes” were born with the same intelligence as whites.

[h=3]History[/h][h=4]Why white people don’t like it: Because white people might find out about some of the things white people did, which is racist.[/h]
[h=3]Integration[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: Because Black kids carry venereal disease and Jesus didn’t like race-mixing, plus, it’s communist (see above photo). And big government is un-American.[/h]
[h=3]Colin Kaepernick[/h][h=4]Why white people don’t like him: He’s a Marxist, communist, racist, rich athlete who flaunted his politics in our faces by silently protesting out of sight until someone noticed.[/h]Colin Kaepernick is the greatest example of Republican hypocrisy. They hate cancel culture after they canceled Colin Kaepernick. They don’t want politics in sports but cheer when politicians protest sports. They claim to like peaceful protest but derided Colin Kaepernick for protesting peacefully. They love freedom of speech but...
I think you see where I’m going.
[h=3]Martin Luther King Jr.[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like him: He was a communist. He was anti-white. He was a Marxist.[/h]
[h=3]NAACP[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It was communist and racist against whites.[/h][h=3]Obamacare[/h][h=4]Why white people don’t like it: Because it is communist and socialist.[/h]
According to the Republican Party, universal healthcare is communist. Or maybe it’s Socialism...except it’s sometimes Marxism. In any case, it’s definitely un-American, mostly because it’s called “Obamacare.”
They love the Affordable Care Act.
[h=3]Reparations[/h][h=4]Why white people don’t like it: Come on, bruh.[/h](See history.)
[h=3]The March on Washington[/h][h=4]Why white people didn’t like it: It’s communist, racist and anti-white.[/h]In August 1963, days before the March on Washington, the event’s unfavorability rating was 80 percent, according to a Gallup poll. That’s probably because 85 percent thought that “the communists” were involved in “the demonstrations over civil rights.”

 

[PhDeac]

Another good read.

[h=1]'Forget The Alamo' Author Says We Have The Texas Origin Story All Wrong[/h]

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/16/1006907140/forget-the-alamo-texas-history-bryan-burrough

Remember the Alamo? According to Texas lore, it's the site in San Antonio where, in 1836, about 180 Texan rebels died defending the state during Texas' war for independence from Mexico.
The siege of the Alamo was memorably depicted in a Walt Disney series and in a 1960 movie starring John Wayne. But three writers, all Texans, say the common narrative of the Texas revolt overlooks the fact that it was waged in part to ensure slavery would be preserved.
"Slavery was the undeniable linchpin of all of this," author Bryan Burrough says. "It was the thing that the two sides had been arguing about and shooting about for going on 15 years. And yet it still surprises me that slavery went unexamined for so long."
In their new book, Forget the Alamo, Burrough and co-writers Chris Tomlinson and Jason Stanford challenge common misconceptions surrounding the conflict — including the notion that Davy Crockett was a martyr who fought to the death rather than surrender.
"Most academics now believe, based on Mexican accounts and contemporary accounts, that, in fact, [Crockett] did surrender and was executed," Burrough says.

On how Texas history often fails to address slavery
It still surprises me that slavery went unexamined for so long. But then you have to understand: The Texas revolt, for 150 years, was largely ignored by academics, in part because it was considered déclassé, it was considered provincial, and because the state government of Texas, much as they're doing now, has for 120, 130 years, made very clear to the University of Texas faculty and to the faculty of other state-funded universities that it only wants one type of Texas history taught ... and that if you get outside those boundaries, you're going to hear about it from the Legislature.

On how Mexican Americans were largely written out of Texas history

The Tejanos, who were the Texians'key allies and a number of which fought and died at the Alamo, were entirely written out of generations of Texas history [as it was] written by Anglo writers. This was mirrored very much in the kind of ethnic cleansing that went on after the revolution in which hundreds of Tejanos were pushed out of San Antonio, in Victoria and existing towns, their lands taken, laws passed against their ability to marry white women and hold public office.

On how the 1960 John Wayne movie The Alamo perpetuated these myths
[Wayne] made the movie basically because he wholeheartedly believed that America was falling apart, that it was going to the dogs and that somebody needs to stand up for what are today called "patriotic values," "family values," "American values." And it's also pretty clear ... [Wayne] was ardently pro-Nixon in the 1960 presidential campaign and ardently anti-Kennedy and in his mind, believed that this type of huge shout-out of American patriot values could somehow defeat John F. Kennedy.
The movie, most reviewers would tell you, is a mess. It perpetuates everyhoary Alamo myth. And yet it spoke to a certain cross section of American and international viewers. It was really the thing that more than anything, caused the Alamo to become the international icon that it's become.

On how the Anglo-centric narrative of the Alamo history has affected Latino kids
Mexican American kids can grow up in Texas believing they're Americans, with the Statue of Liberty and all that, until seventh grade when you were taught, in essence, that if you're Mexican, your ancestors killed Davy Crockett, that that's kind of the original sin of the Texas creation myth. It has been used just anecdotally for generations to put down Mexican Americans, a big beefy white guy going up to the little Mexican guy and punching him in the arm and saying, "Remember the Alamo," that type of thing.
To an amazing degree, maybe because the Texas media [are] still dominated by Anglos as well as the Texas government, that viewpoint has just never really gotten into the mainstream. ... By and large, any time you've had any type of Latino voice come out and question the traditional Anglo narrative, they've been shouted down.

That last part is at the core of the conservative argument. White is right. That's why even if jhmd and Junebug don't actually think this is a big deal, they have to fight because if we challenge the dominant white history narratives to include other viewpoints, what will we do next? Challenge white supremacy in our society.

 

[06deacon]

It’s too useful a tool for them to outright disavow.

 

[ConnorEl]

The one thing that dumbfounds me about white supremacy is how much white people trust each other.

Hey, have you heard about this propagandist, Rufo.

 

[Highland Deac]

Hey, have you heard about this propagandist, Rufo.

I wonder if Angus has already signed up to give him a regular $5 to $10 (or more) monthly contribution so he can continue doing his great work at exposing liberal lies about CRT?

 

[Strickland33]

started watching Rufo's "documentary" on CRT and lol'd when he said the Frankfurt school wrote in response to the "social and racial unrest of the 1960s"

it's like people don't want to understand things (a Wiki will show you how wrong that is) they just want to be angry

the dates you mean?

 

[Strickland33]

How much longer until a disgruntled white student shoots up his school and blames CRT?

I just hope it's not one of us caught in the crossfire. The only nice thing about teaching remotely is that I don't have that half second thought every time I enter a classroom...