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Banning Critical Race Theory

Our system does provide advantages to certain groups of people, foremost among them are people who finish their public educations, wait until they get married to start their families and take gainful employment. If you like data, those people have a lower poverty rate than any racial group in the country.

Do you know which group has 10x more of an advantage then the group you mentioned?

People who have inherited wealth. Particularly through the centuries. Guess who wasn’t allowed to accumulate wealth in most of this country until a generation ago? People of color.

I have 6th graders who understand this. Your refusal to accept this is due to your devotion to white supremacy.

Move along you racist scum and please don’t procreate. If you already have, continue acting this way and your kids will grow up and want nothing to do with you. Just like I did with my racist father.

The kids today are much more decent and caring then you’ll ever be.
 
Our system does provide advantages to certain groups of people, foremost among them are people who finish their public educations, wait until they get married to start their families and take gainful employment. If you like data, those people have a lower poverty rate than any racial group in the country.

do you think that if your dad had been in prison, your mom worked 3 jobs, and you lived in the projects on food stamps and attending a shitty high school you'd have ended up exactly like you are because of your CHARACTER?
 
Our system does provide advantages to certain groups of people, foremost among them are people who finish their public educations, wait until they get married to start their families and take gainful employment. If you like data, those people have a lower poverty rate than any racial group in the country.

To circle back to this tone deaf post. You’re right. That is ideal.

So how do we create an environment where the next generation has far more people in this position? Do we cut education, welfare and health care? Do we force teenagers to choose between supporting themselves and finishing HS? Do we provide little to no assistance to the families of these children so that they are forced to grow up and squalid and unhealthy homes? To go to school hungry? To battle mental and physical health issues without adequate care?

Why are you and your ilk so eager to punish children for the sins of their parents? Is it because you are racist, horrible people?
 
Do you know which group has 10x more of an advantage then the group you mentioned?

People who have inherited wealth. Particularly through the centuries. Guess who wasn’t allowed to accumulate wealth in most of this country until a generation ago? People of color.

I have 6th graders who understand this. Your refusal to accept this is due to your devotion to white supremacy.

Move along you racist scum and please don’t procreate. If you already have, continue acting this way and your kids will grow up and want nothing to do with you. Just like I did with my racist father.

The kids today are much more decent and caring then you’ll ever be.

Except for that fact that the 93% cuts across each and every demographic. People who make those three choices outperform any other group.

What if we both cared enough to listen to the data, and then teach what actually works (instead of some feel-good, exculpatory narrative which won't work, like the bullshit you just tried to pass off)?
 
Except for that fact that the 93% cuts across each and every demographic. People who make those three choices outperform any other group.

What if we both cared enough to listen to the data, and then teach what actually works (instead of some feel-good, exculpatory narrative which won't work, like the bullshit you just tried to pass off)?

So how do we create this scenario for kids who are born into poverty and broken families? Fuck ‘em?

Also as an educated person, you honestly think we shouldn’t examine the historical cause of problem in order to fix it?
 
So how do we create this scenario for kids who are born into poverty and broken families? Fuck ‘em?

Also as an educated person, you honestly think we shouldn’t examine the historical cause of problem in order to fix it?

Happy to talk about this in another thread. Pick whichever one you think most fits and I'll see you there.
 
Happy to talk about this in another thread. Pick whichever one you think most fits and I'll see you there.

Nope. This conversation stays here.

Because this CRT witch-hunt is nothing more than white supremacy propaganda. You don’t want to examine the past, because it reveals the horrors and atrocities committed by your exalted race.

You are no different than a Holocaust denier.
 
Happy to talk about this in another thread. Pick whichever one you think most fits and I'll see you there.

He doesn’t want to talk about historical causes of racial disparities on a thread devoted to talking about how his party doesn’t want to talk about historical causes of racial disparities.
 
Nope. This conversation stays here.

Because this CRT witch-hunt is nothing more than white supremacy propaganda. You don’t want to examine the past, because it reveals the horrors and atrocities committed by your exalted race.

You are no different than a Holocaust denier.

To the untrained eye, this is a bizarre interpretation of my position on the issue (which you might want to read). To the experienced observer of Bubbledwellers, this is Thursday. Data-immune anger and recrimination, baseless arrogance and generic invective (all to rebut what Milhouse believes is a truism. Incredible.).
 
He doesn’t want to talk about historical causes of racial disparities on a thread devoted to talking about how his party doesn’t want to talk about historical causes of racial disparities.

Or you guys always bitch about thread derailment when the discussion eventually, begrudgingly returns to reality. Whichever.
 
So you do want to examine the past from a critical lens?
 
To the untrained eye, this is a bizarre interpretation of my position on the issue (which you might want to read). To the experienced observer of Bubbledwellers, this is Thursday. Data-immune anger and recrimination, baseless arrogance and generic invective (all to rebut what Milhouse believes is a truism. Incredible.).

Boo hoo bitch. I guess you’ll have to make due with your centuries of white privilege.

I have no time for you white supremacist simps. You can dress it up in as much theory and academic language as you like, but it’s crystal clear what your racist ass motives are.
 
Also data-immune? Aren’t you the mother fucker who wants to ignore all data from before 1965?
 
Our system does provide advantages to certain groups of people, foremost among them are people who finish their public educations, wait until they get married to start their families and take gainful employment. If you like data, those people have a lower poverty rate than any racial group in the country.

All of this can be true and at the same time black people who achieve all of these things and follow this exact path can be less advantaged than white people.
 
All of this can be true and at the same time black people who achieve all of these things and follow this exact path can be less advantaged than white people.

He only thinks “not poverty” is a reasonable expectation.
 
Republicans want to believe that everyone has the same opportunities in America. It's the only way their bootstraps con works. If that falls apart, then the masses might revolt against the wealth hoarding corporate elites.
 
what on earth? first, CRT doesn't teach anything. it's an critical school of inquiry. adherents who are educators may teach CRT and advocate for jury nullification, but that's not really associated with CRT from my understanding of the school of inquiry. second, CRT has been around for 35-some years at this point, so I'm not sure why you are scared of a critical school of inquiry inciting anarchy?

this is one of the weirder posts I think I have read from you, Junebug.

From "Critical Race Theory: An Introduction" by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic (2001)

Chapter II: Hallmark Critical Race Theory Themes

Traditional legal research tools, found in standard law libraries, rely on a series of headnotes, index numbers, and other categories that lawyers use to find precedent. (With computerization, this reliance is somewhat less acute than it was formerly, but the problem still persists.) Suppose that no case is on point because the lawyer faces a problem of first impression, requiring legal innovation. In such situations, legal categories will lead the lawyer to dead ends—to solutions that have not worked. What is required is innovation, not the application of some preexisting rule or principle. Even when a new idea, such as jury nullification, is beginning to catch on, the legal indexers who compile the reference books and indexing tools may fail to realize its significance. When Sir William Blackstone’s Commentaries on the Laws laid down the basic structure of liberal/capitalist thought, this served as a template for future generations of lawyers, so that legal change thereafter came slowly. Once the structure of law and legal categories is set, it replicates itself much as, in the world of biology, DNA enables organisms to replicate. In some respects, the predicament is the old one about the chicken and the egg. It is hard to think about something that has no name, and it is hard to name something unless one’s interpretive community has begun talking and thinking about it.

As a thought exercise, the reader is invited to consider how many of the following terms and ideas, mentioned in this book and highly relevant to the work of progressive lawyers and activists, are apt to be found in standard legal reference works: intersectionality, interest convergence, anti-essentialism, hegemony, language rights, black-white binary, jury nullification. How long will it take before these concepts enter the official vocabulary of law?

Chapter VII: Critical Race Theory Today

Another set of contemporary issues has to do loosely with power: addressing racism in the criminal justice system, increasing voting power and political representation, combating hate speech, and striving for recognition of language rights. On any given day, over 60 percent of the black men in the District of Columbia are enmeshed in the criminal justice system—in jail or prison, on probation or parole, or wanted on a warrant. In East Los Angeles, 50 percent of young Mexican American men suffer the same fate. Black men who murder whites are executed at a rate nearly ten times that of whites who murder blacks. And as most readers of this book will know, the number of young black men in prison or jail is larger than the number attending college.

Many progressive people seek to understand the meaning of these figures and search for ways to combat the conditions that create them. Critical race theory’s contribution has taken a number of forms. Building on the work of radical criminologists, one race crit shows that the disproportionate criminalization of African Americans is a product, in large part, of the way we define crime. Many lethal acts, such as marketing defective automobiles, alcohol, or phar- maceuticals or waging undeclared wars, are not considered crimes at all. By the same token, many things that young black and Latino men are prone to do, such as congregating on street corners, cruising in low-rider cars, or scrawling graffiti in public places, are energetically policed. Crack cocaine offenses receive harsher penalties than those that apply to powder cocaine. Figures show that white-collar crime, including embezzlement, consumer fraud, bribery, insider trading, and price fixing, causes more deaths and property loss, even on a per capita basis, than all street crime combined.

Other critical race scholars urge jury nullification to combat the disproportionate incarceration of young black men. In jury nullification, the jury, which in most large cities will contain people of color, uses its judgment, sometimes contravening instructions from the judge, on whether to convict a defendant who has committed a nonviolent offense, such as shoplifting or possession of a small amount of drugs. If the jury believes that the police system is racist or that the young man is of more use to the community free than behind bars, it will vote to acquit.

I can understand why you would want to dissociate the concept of race-based jury nullification from CRT, but the literal textbook--which was written only a few years after Butler published his article--certainly doesn't do that. Instead, it lists it among the "Hallmark CRT Themes" and includes it in a discussion of "CRT Today."
 

Yep. CRT has become the new catch-all GOP phrase for everything evil they claim LibDems are doing to America.

According to Sen. Josh Hawley, CRT holds that “the United States is rotten to its core...In our American flag, they see propaganda, and in our family businesses, they see white supremacy.” Those adhering to this animating ideology of the Biden administration, he elaborated, “allow no room for merit, for experience, or for grace in our life together. They pit Whiteness and Blackness against each other in a manner that reduces every American, no matter their character or creed, to their racial identity alone.”

And that’s not all! The Biden administration’s animating ideology holds “that subjects like mathematics are inherently racist, that the Christian faith is oppressive” and “that the nuclear family perpetuates racism.” Looking straight into the TV camera above the Senate floor, Hawley said that Biden’s animating ideology tells children that “your dreams” are “unjust” and that “your family” are “oppressors.”

Hawley offered zero evidence for his claims, beyond Biden reinstating racial sensitivity training and his nomination of an Indian American woman, Kiran Ahuja, to run the Office of Personnel Management. Hawley alleged that critical race theory “appears to be her fundamental ideology.” This wild claim is based on a Boston University professor’s lecture on “antiracism” at the charity she ran, and her linking to an article of his claiming Trump’s election was an example of white supremacy. But Republicans rallied behind Hawley’s demagoguery anyway. They voted unanimously Tuesday against her confirmation, requiring Vice President Harris to break the Senate’s tie. Ahuja was the latest of several non-White Biden nominees to run into Republican opposition."

There's librul boogeymen everywhere!
 
Nope. This conversation stays here.

Because this CRT witch-hunt is nothing more than white supremacy propaganda. You don’t want to examine the past, because it reveals the horrors and atrocities committed by your exalted race.

You are no different than a Holocaust denier.

Don't be bringing witches into this. They just want to be left alone.
 
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