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Chat Thread 165: A shrewdness of apes.

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TownieDeac said:
i know it's a terrible way to think about it, but it's kinda hard to kill a kid

fuck em up for life, sure, that's probably easy

give em a complex, definitely

but human kids are pretty hearty, evolutionarily speaking
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hardy?
 
i like the way you think language evolves, revolutionarily speaking
 
i don't generally believe in such things as guilty pleasures because #youdoyou but florence and the machine is a perfect example

i hate that i like their music

it's objectively mediocre and i enjoy it regardless
 
TownieDeac said:
i know it's a terrible way to think about it, but it's kinda hard to kill a kid

fuck em up for life, sure, that's probably easy

give em a complex, definitely

but human kids are pretty hearty, evolutionarily speaking
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Humans are remarkably resilient.

Something often lost on the Millennial generation.
 
TownieDeac said:
i don't generally believe in such things as guilty pleasures because #youdoyou but florence and the machine is a perfect example

i hate that i like their music

it's objectively mediocre and i enjoy it regardless
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How does one objectively adjudicate the quality of music?
 
HailToTheDeacons said:
How does one objectively adjudicate the quality of music?
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i guess insofar as the rubric i use is my own, there's always going to be a layer of subjectivity, not to mention my own [classically] untrained ear is clearly flawed and probably biased towards western/northern hemisphere structures

but i would say objectively i count in equal parts technical quality of instrumentation, lyrics, song structure, and the je ne sais quoi "it factor" where you just know it's a hit or not

so the reason i count off florence and the machine is partially the platitudes of their lyrical content and the generally melodramatic atmospheres

i still like them as competent songwriters, she has a great voice, and they write catchy stuff i can listen to closely or in the background and like
 
TownieDeac said:
i guess insofar as the rubric i use is my own, there's always going to be a layer of subjectivity, not to mention my own [classically] untrained ear is clearly flawed and probably biased towards western/northern hemisphere structures

but i would say objectively i count in equal parts technical quality of instrumentation, lyrics, song structure, and the je ne sais quoi "it factor" where you just know it's a hit or not

so the reason i count off florence and the machine is partially the platitudes of their lyrical content and the generally melodramatic atmospheres

i still like them as competent songwriters, she has a great voice, and they write catchy stuff i can listen to closely or in the background and like
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so honest question: do people from india hear american music and think "holy crap there's no melody or rhythm to that AT ALL!"
 
TownieDeac said:
i guess insofar as the rubric i use is my own, there's always going to be a layer of subjectivity, not to mention my own [classically] untrained ear is clearly flawed and probably biased towards western/northern hemisphere structures

but i would say objectively i count in equal parts technical quality of instrumentation, lyrics, song structure, and the je ne sais quoi "it factor" where you just know it's a hit or not

so the reason i count off florence and the machine is partially the platitudes of their lyrical content and the generally melodramatic atmospheres

i still like them as competent songwriters, she has a great voice, and they write catchy stuff i can listen to closely or in the background and like
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This could be pasted into the Pretentious Shit thread and it would fit perfectly.
 
i always think of berman and the crew rocking out to that song in someone's camry. damn that commercial.
 
DeacDiggler said:
so honest question: do people from india hear american music and think "holy crap there's no melody or rhythm to that AT ALL!"
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this gets into some (IMO) really fascinating territory - chomsky's ideas about language being pre-developmental have definitely gotten into some music theory that says that music is essentially natural and sort of transcends human structures

meter and notation transcends culture, but i think arithmetic time signatures are a western convention whereas classical indian "raga" is more based around melody and scale than time
 
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