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Conference Expansion: Stanford, California and SMU Join the ACC

I'm going to laugh my ass off if FSU winds up in the Big XII because neither the SEC or the Big Ten want them
 
I think the ironic thing is the only reason FSU was even in the discussion for the playoff was because they are in the ACC. There is no other conference strong enough to propel them to a playoff bid that they would have won enough games to make it, and any other conference where they could have gone undefeated wouldn't have any more pull than the ACC did. Not to mention their exclusion actually hinged on a QB injury, not a conference issue.

It'll be entertaining to watch them realize how good a fit the ACC was for them after they leave. They're simply not a consistent enough program to avoid getting exposed wherever they land.
 
FSU in the Big 10 would just be a worse version of Penn State.

Seen a lot of whining online about “oh man we gotta leave the ACC because we’re never gonna make the playoffs” like y’all are gonna make it outside of the ACC?? FSU fans have got to be among the most delusional fans I’ve seen in my life.

What’s even more frustrating is seeing fans of schools like Pitt cheering for burning this entire thing down as if they aren’t gonna be on the outside too at the end of all this.
 
It's just about the money because if it were about the playoff, they'd just be content to sit in the ACC and grab the auto bid for the playoff that starts next year
 
DCDeac said:
I think the ironic thing is the only reason FSU was even in the discussion for the playoff was because they are in the ACC. There is no other conference strong enough to propel them to a playoff bid that they would have won enough games to make it, and any other conference where they could have gone undefeated wouldn't have any more pull than the ACC did. Not to mention their exclusion actually hinged on a QB injury, not a conference issue.

It'll be entertaining to watch them realize how good a fit the ACC was for them after they leave. They're simply not a consistent enough program to avoid getting exposed wherever they land.
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Like I posted earlier in this thread. All these teams in the SEC and Big 10 are going to just best themselves up and they're probably going to find that even with the 12 team playoff, it might be really hard to get one of those spots. Seems a much easier road to the playoff would likely run through the ACC, than winning the SEC or Big 10 or even being one of the teams good enough to get an at-large. So many teams in those 2 conferences have potential to be good enough in any given year to be a playoff contender, it will be a dog fight. Adding FSU to either, will make it even harder.
 
The more concerning part is when Bill Hancock called the ACC a "so called Power 5 conference". That's the national perception even if he apologized after being called out for saying it. The ACC is taking on water.
 
york1313 said:
The more concerning part is when Bill Hancock called the ACC a "so called Power 5 conference". That's the national perception even if he apologized after being called out for saying it. The ACC is taking on water.
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Come on. That’s very clearly not what he meant. It wasn’t meant as a slight to the ACC. It was meant to not offend the G5 conferences.
 
BarcaDeac said:
yeah the ACC fucking bent over backwards for FSU in the expansion era:
  • putting FSU and Miami in separate divisions
  • putting their game on Labor Day so the loser could recover in time to potentially be in line for a ACCCG and maybe BCS berth
  • putting the ACCCG in Jacksonville
and none of that ever panned out
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FSU started to decline from 2005-2009 in Bowden senile days for sure but they bounced back when Jimbo took over- from 2010-2017- he had 10+ win seasons 6/8 years, 3 conference titles, and a natty. Yeah, then they had the Taggart era and early Norvell days but for the most part- they've "performed" VPI and Miami are the ones that have killed the conference- particularly Miami. VPI was great in the early days of ACC affiliation- but they've only had one 10+ win in last 12 years (2016). Miami has been awful- only one 10+ win season -(2017) since they joined the conference and no conference titles. Wake has had more.
 
SCDeac said:
The ironic part of all of this is the ACC is in the jam it's in primarily because F$U was putting out a dogshit product for the past decade...and Miami and VPI to lesser degree. They made our product less valuable.

Seeing them go 7-5 in the SEC will be great. Or even better, watching them play a bunch of teams in the Midwest that no one gives two shits about. F$U vs. Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan State, Indiana, Maryland....now that's excitement.
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FSU against BC/Pitt/VT/Louisville/Wake/UVA/GT/Syracuse much more exciting?
 
deacdixieboy said:
Come on. That’s very clearly not what he meant. It wasn’t meant as a slight to the ACC. It was meant to not offend the G5 conferences.
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That is the national perception. If FSU were in the SEC or B10 they would not have missed the playoff at 13-0. It absolutely is a slap in the face of the conference for them to be left out.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Like I posted earlier in this thread. All these teams in the SEC and Big 10 are going to just best themselves up and they're probably going to find that even with the 12 team playoff, it might be really hard to get one of those spots. Seems a much easier road to the playoff would likely run through the ACC, than winning the SEC or Big 10 or even being one of the teams good enough to get an at-large. So many teams in those 2 conferences have potential to be good enough in any given year to be a playoff contender, it will be a dog fight. Adding FSU to either, will make it even harder.
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Doubtful. 9-3 SEC/Big Ten teams will get in over 10-2 ACC teams.
 
PhDeac said:
Doubtful. 9-3 SEC/Big Ten teams will get in over 10-2 ACC teams.
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Winning the ACC may be easier than going 9-3 in those leagues though. Both conferences are going to be full of playoff potential programs.

Adding that is going to be a real shame to see 3 loss teams in the playoff, college football's regular season has always meant so much, but under this system it will certainly mean less if you're in one of those 2 conferences at least.
 
york1313 said:
That is the national perception. If FSU were in the SEC or B10 they would not have missed the playoff at 13-0. It absolutely is a slap in the face of the conference for them to be left out.
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They would have had to beat a top 5 team in the conf championship game

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ChrisL68 said:
They would have had to beat a top 5 team in the conf championship game

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Which the ACC doesn't have. And part of that reason is the national perception. Hell, the basketball perception is shit right now too. The ACC has got some serious image issues.
 
NSFWake said:
FSU against BC/Pitt/VT/Louisville/Wake/UVA/GT/Syracuse much more exciting?
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Yeah. And more regional appeal. Plus ESPN is getting these games on the cheap based on their payouts. Wondering how much Fox wants to shell out for games no one wants to see.
 
york1313 said:
Which the ACC doesn't have. And part of that reason is the national perception. Hell, the basketball perception is shit right now too. The ACC has got some serious image issues.
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The SEC's image when Auburn got snubbed in 2004 was similar - what happened? The SEC rallied around each other and they all agreed to pour stupid amounts of money into their programs. The ACC isn't going to do that.
 
w84it said:
The SEC's image when Auburn got snubbed in 2004 was similar - what happened? The SEC rallied around each other and they all agreed to pour stupid amounts of money into their programs. The ACC isn't going to do that.
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Even more recent, the Big 12 was on life support and TCU and Baylor got snubbed in 2014, ironically by an OSU with a backup QB.
 
w84it said:
The SEC's image when Auburn got snubbed in 2004 was similar - what happened? The SEC rallied around each other and they all agreed to pour stupid amounts of money into their programs. The ACC isn't going to do that.
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Agreed. The SEC was proactive. The ACC is reactive.
 
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