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CT 757: does anyone know a paralegal who enjoys insensitive jokes

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TownieDeac said:
You could focus on just one part of your 1000 responsibilities, come cut grass and make $40k in DC, never have to talk to a snot nose kid again
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but then childcare is typically more than just $20 a week or whatever
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
nah you still have to make payment on loans over ten years -- the balance is forgiven

but honestly, if you can go to school debt-free then no need to sweat somebody else's "windfall"
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Kid A gets a scholarship, Kid B doesn't. Kid A and Kid B both have the same GPA and get the same gov job out of school. Kid A works harder than Kid B and is a much higher contributor, but they move through the ranks at the same pace. Kid A has no student debt at the end of 10 years, while Kid B has $100K remaining. Kid B basically gets a $100K bonus after 10 years, while Kid A gets nothing. That is definitely something Kid A should sweat.

It should be some sort of vesting schedule that can be used to pay off student loans or go towards retirement. It should not just be student loans or nothing.
 
PhDeac said:
There's a pretty wide distribution that depends on a lot of factors.
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Yes, of course. But I think people would be pretty surprised, especially with the years of training required.

And parents paying tuition should know their money is not necessarily going to faculty salaries
 
tigerswood said:
Kid A gets a scholarship, Kid B doesn't. Kid A and Kid B both have the same GPA and get the same gov job out of school. Kid A works harder than Kid B and is a much higher contributor, but they move through the ranks at the same pace. Kid A has no student debt at the end of 10 years, while Kid B has $100K remaining. Kid B basically gets a $100K bonus after 10 years, while Kid A gets nothing. That is definitely something Kid A should sweat.

It should be some sort of vesting schedule that can be used to pay off student loans or go towards retirement. It should not just be student loans or nothing.
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tigerswood said:
Kid A gets a scholarship, Kid B doesn't. Kid A and Kid B both have the same GPA and get the same gov job out of school. Kid A works harder than Kid B and is a much higher contributor, but they move through the ranks at the same pace. Kid A has no student debt at the end of 10 years, while Kid B has $100K remaining. Kid B basically gets a $100K bonus after 10 years, while Kid A gets nothing. That is definitely something Kid A should sweat.

It should be some sort of vesting schedule that can be used to pay off student loans or go towards retirement. It should not just be student loans or nothing.
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Karma police, arrest this man.
 
TownieDeac said:
i had a terrible experience with career services while i was at Wake

they basically looked at my transcript, my major, and my resume and were like GOOD LUCK BITCH
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in general, career services are just awful

occasionally you can have a good individual that's useful to work with, but the offices themselves almost uniformly suck.

DDD, i wouldn't snitch on the individual you talked to but you could let the provost's office know that you have been underwhelmed with the office in general
 
tigerswood said:
Kid A gets a scholarship, Kid B doesn't. Kid A and Kid B both have the same GPA and get the same gov job out of school. Kid A works harder than Kid B and is a much higher contributor, but they move through the ranks at the same pace. Kid A has no student debt at the end of 10 years, while Kid B has $100K remaining. Kid B basically gets a $100K bonus after 10 years, while Kid A gets nothing. That is definitely something Kid A should sweat.

It should be some sort of vesting schedule that can be used to pay off student loans or go towards retirement. It should not just be student loans or nothing.
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dude you just learned about PSLF an hour ago and you are dead set against it as a socialist handout?

The idea is that it is an incentive to take a lower paying job with either a non-profit or the government. You are not eligible for loan forgiveness if you work in private practice. You still have to make ten years worth of payments (120 payments while having an eligible job - if you take a 3 year break from public service, those years don't count) before the rest of the loan is forgiven. It is not a bonus, it is a small incentive to help prevent brain drain to private industry.
 
tigerswood said:
Kid A gets a scholarship, Kid B doesn't. Kid A and Kid B both have the same GPA and get the same gov job out of school. Kid A works harder than Kid B and is a much higher contributor, but they move through the ranks at the same pace. Kid A has no student debt at the end of 10 years, while Kid B has $100K remaining. Kid B basically gets a $100K bonus after 10 years, while Kid A gets nothing. That is definitely something Kid A should sweat.

It should be some sort of vesting schedule that can be used to pay off student loans or go towards retirement. It should not just be student loans or nothing.
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The math and logic here is way off. Kid A got a scholarship and didn't have 10 years of student loan payments. Why should they be mad that Kid B can stop paying student loans? Kid A has had a huge advantage for 14+ years.


wakephan09 said:
Yes, of course. But I think people would be pretty surprised, especially with the years of training required.

And parents paying tuition should know their money is not necessarily going to faculty salaries
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I don't really know what people think professors make. People don't know much about how the profession is structured.

What do people here think professors make?
 
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I know plenty of people that were paralegals before going to law school and plenty that found out they didn’t want to go to law school after being a paralegal.

Wake has plenty of majors with no skill set that should jump at a $60K job.
 
And based on everyone's experiences with the public sector it's not working.
 
I know probably three dozen lawyers and I'm pretty sure none of them were ever paralegals.
 
BeachBumDeac said:
dude you just learned about PSLF an hour ago and you are dead set against it as a socialist handout?

The idea is that it is an incentive to take a lower paying job with either a non-profit or the government. You are not eligible for loan forgiveness if you work in private practice. You still have to make ten years worth of payments (120 payments while having an eligible job - if you take a 3 year break from public service, those years don't count) before the rest of the loan is forgiven. It is not a bonus, it is a small incentive to help prevent brain drain to private industry.
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But why didn't their parents just make more money so they wouldn't have had student loans? And now they get a free handout just because they dedicated 10 years of their lives to public service?
 
tigerswood said:
Kid A gets a scholarship, Kid B doesn't. Kid A and Kid B both have the same GPA and get the same gov job out of school. Kid A works harder than Kid B and is a much higher contributor, but they move through the ranks at the same pace. Kid A has no student debt at the end of 10 years, while Kid B has $100K remaining. Kid B basically gets a $100K bonus after 10 years, while Kid A gets nothing. That is definitely something Kid A should sweat.

It should be some sort of vesting schedule that can be used to pay off student loans or go towards retirement. It should not just be student loans or nothing.
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comparison is the thief of joy, my guy
 
BeachBumDeac said:
dude you just learned about PSLF an hour ago and you are dead set against it as a socialist handout?

The idea is that it is an incentive to take a lower paying job with either a non-profit or the government. You are not eligible for loan forgiveness if you work in private practice. You still have to make ten years worth of payments (120 payments while having an eligible job - if you take a 3 year break from public service, those years don't count) before the rest of the loan is forgiven. It is not a bonus, it is a small incentive to help prevent brain drain to private industry.
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dude, I have a few friends who were eligible for PSLF until they left for much higher paying private sector careers, though it did weigh into their thinking when they were leaving the public sector. The scenario I posted would certainly be rare, but would result in a higher achiever (in HS and career wise) receiving significantly lower overall compensation.

My solution wasn't to do away with it, but to allocate a set amount that can got to repaying student loans OR towards retirement if you make it to 10 years. Seems like that would be an even bigger win (though cost more taxpayer $) and further prevent the brain drain you describe.
 
TimmyClutch said:
But why didn't their parents just make more money so they wouldn't have had student loans? And now they get a free handout just because they dedicated 10 years of their lives to public service?
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Nah they should have just skipped class, smoked weed, and played video games in HS. Who needs a scholarship!
 
tigerswood said:
dude, I have a few friends who were eligible for PSLF until they left for much higher paying private sector careers, though it did weigh into their thinking when they were leaving the public sector. The scenario I posted would certainly be rare, but would result in a higher achiever (in HS and career wise) receiving significantly lower overall compensation.

My solution wasn't to do away with it, but to allocate a set amount that can got to repaying student loans OR towards retirement if you make it to 10 years. Seems like that would be an even bigger win (though cost more taxpayer $) and further prevent the brain drain you describe.
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I mean, not really? They don't have to make 10 years worth of student loan payments, so they have a lot more disposable income during the early years of their career when they can invest it and it can really pay off decades later.
 
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