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Danny Manning Credibility Watch

Pittsburgh & Clemson are also both 1-4, but still appear on most brackets. If Wake can position themselves to finish top 10 in ACC they will be on the bubble & a lock for NIT. The writing off of the current season seems premature.
 
deacvision7 said:
You cannot compare teams 3 years apart from one another statistically. Way too many variables. I thought you were kidding at first, but it seems you aren't, so stop please. Thanks.
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I would think the average quality of college basketball stats relatively stagnant over time. Kenpom measures each team's quality as compared to the average team that year.

This year, Wake would outscored the average team by 14.5 points per 100 possessions.

The 2014 team was only 4.9 points per 100 possessions erred than the average team in 2014.

Adjusting for pace this team would be about a 7 point favorite over the 2014 team. Or in other words exactly the same, no progress whatsoever.
 
GT with a rookie coach predicted at the bottom of the ACC by everyone goes through their toughest 5 game stretch of conference games at 3-2. They are done with Duke, UNC and UL.
 
ChrisL68 said:
GT with a rookie coach predicted at the bottom of the ACC by everyone goes through their toughest 5 game stretch of conference games at 3-2. They are done with Duke, UNC and UL.
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Irrelevant. What does KenPom say about them?
 
ChrisL68 said:
GT with a rookie coach predicted at the bottom of the ACC by everyone goes through their toughest 5 game stretch of conference games at 3-2. They are done with Duke, UNC and UL.
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They graduated like 80% of their scoring from last year's team, too. That roster is bottom-of-the-barrel garbage. Pretty impressive stuff so far.
 
Ayo said:
They graduated like 80% of their scoring from last year's team, too. That roster is bottom-of-the-barrel garbage. Pretty impressive stuff so far.
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So, what you're implying is that it doesn't take 3-5 years of culture and rebuilding to win a conference game on the road? Very interesting concept.
 
coredeac said:
So, what you're implying is that it doesn't take 3-5 years of culture and rebuilding to win a conference game on the road? Very interesting concept.
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No, it really doesn't. Good coaches in both FB and BB -- and at Wake -- have started winning fairly soon after being hired. In most cases, but not all, the caliber of the coach can be seen in the first or second year.
 
Lohengrin said:
No, it really doesn't. Good coaches in both FB and BB -- and at Wake -- have started winning fairly soon after being hired. In most cases, but not all, the caliber of the coach can be seen in the first or second year.
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Pastner has a lot of issues as a coach. But at least he had been a HC for a number of years before taking over at GT.
 
coredeac said:
So, what you're implying is that it doesn't take 3-5 years of culture and rebuilding to win a conference game on the road? Very interesting concept.
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You mean winning with another coach's players is a good thing and should be expected?
 
Joe Lunardi has Wake in his Next Four Out (the #4 team in that category) so really like 8 spots out of getting a bid. Still pretty remarkable though considering how these first 5 ACC games have gone. With how tough the ACC this year is, I think you may see teams get bids with sub-500 conference records.
 
Bourrc9 said:
Joe Lunardi has Wake in his Next Four Out (the #4 team in that category) so really like 8 spots out of getting a bid. Still pretty remarkable though considering how these first 5 ACC games have gone. With how tough the ACC this year is, I think you may see teams get bids with sub-500 conference records.
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Weird. 10 ACC teams in, so we're the 11th. The four missing from anywhere on his list are Cuse, NC State, BC, and GT.
 
Geez. One quality win and we would be in.
 
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