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Danny Manning Credibility Watch

wsc8521s said:
Though TBF that game didn't really mean much to us. We knew that if we beat Maryland the next week we were ACCCG bound regardless.

Still glad we drew GT instead of VT
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Yep that game was irrelevant. The Maryland game decided the division. I remember we held Idlette and a few others out of the VT game.
 
Deac83 said:
Well, 'officially', we did squeeze in a NCAAT bid last year. That alone is a significant difference. DM some issues to resolve as a coach, but let's not be ridiculous.
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Yes, beating BC and then going L, L & not making the field of 64 is the classic Wellman era postseason “run”
 
I don’t count being in the first four and quickly eliminated as actually being in the NCAAT but I’m sure Wellman and Manning do.
 
Manning's watch game is more on point than Bz's, we tend to still be in the game for the first 30-35 minutes of each game, and I have yet to see him play imaginary piano on the 6:00 news. Other than that...woof.
 
PTownDeac said:
I don’t count being in the first four and quickly eliminated as actually being in the NCAAT but I’m sure Wellman and Manning do.
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As do most people because you're like... well... in the tournament
 
Mannings constant neck twitch is slightly better than Bizzledicks clapping, though Mannings poor suit color choices knock him back a few notches behind the sick gold watches
 
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It may have been discussed earlier, but does anyone know the ACC away records for [Redacted] and Manning?
 
Deke 73 said:
It may have been discussed earlier, but does anyone know the ACC away records for [name redacted] and Manning?
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[name redacted] was 2-32 in ACC away
Manning is currently 3-30 in ACC away

Overall ACC record (home and away)
[name redacted] was 17-51
Manning is currently 18-48

[name redacted]'s final year he was 6-12 for 33%
Manning's 4th year he is currently 2-10 for 17%


But, according to some, this will all be fixed come October, 2018. It's just a "manpower" issue! :)
 
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Deke 73 said:
It may have been discussed earlier, but does anyone know the ACC away records for [Redacted] and Manning?
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They were saying on Twitter last night Wake is 5-65 in their last 70 ACC road games.
 
Just watched a 30 min replay of the OSU - Purdue game last night. It's just night and day the quality of coaching vs. what we see from Manning. The way Painter uses Haas is almost exactly how we should use Moore on offense. OSU got down 14 on the road, and found a way to come back and win.

OSU was picked near the bottom of the B1G, after an atrocious year under Matta, with some attrition and a very thin team coming back. So they go hire Chris Holtmann, and now are 21-5, 12-1 in the league, with the inside track to the B1G championship (wins over #1 MSU and #3 Purdue). Certainly helps that they have the likely B1G MVP and 1st team AA in Keita Bates-Diop, but what a turnaround by a 1st year HC.

Meanwhile, we hire Bz and Manning.
 
tigerswood said:
Just watched a 30 min replay of the OSU - Purdue game last night. It's just night and day the quality of coaching vs. what we see from Manning. The way Painter uses Haas is almost exactly how we should use Moore on offense. OSU got down 14 on the road, and found a way to come back and win.

OSU was picked near the bottom of the B1G, after an atrocious year under Matta, with some attrition and a very thin team coming back. So they go hire Chris Holtmann, and now are 21-5, 12-1 in the league, with the inside track to the B1G championship (wins over #1 MSU and #3 Purdue). Certainly helps that they have the likely B1G MVP and 1st team AA in Keita Bates-Diop, but what a turnaround by a 1st year HC.

Meanwhile, we hire Bz and Manning.
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No doubt. And to back up your eye test, both of those teams have top 20 defenses. Holtman is doing it with Matta's recruits. That is what a top shelf coach does.
 
coredeac said:
[name redacted] was 2-32 in ACC away, -15.5
Manning is currently 3-30 in ACC away, -9.5 (-7.4 the last two years).

Overall ACC record (home and away)
[name redacted] was 17-51
Manning is currently 18-48

[name redacted]'s final year he was 6-12 for 33%
Manning's 4th year he is currently 2-10 for 17%


But, according to some, this will all be fixed come October, 2018. It's just a "manpower" issue! :)
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Context matters. Dino’s average road margin was -5.9.
 
tigerswood said:
Just watched a 30 min replay of the OSU - Purdue game last night. It's just night and day the quality of coaching vs. what we see from Manning. The way Painter uses Haas is almost exactly how we should use Moore on offense. OSU got down 14 on the road, and found a way to come back and win.

OSU was picked near the bottom of the B1G, after an atrocious year under Matta, with some attrition and a very thin team coming back. So they go hire Chris Holtmann, and now are 21-5, 12-1 in the league, with the inside track to the B1G championship (wins over #1 MSU and #3 Purdue). Certainly helps that they have the likely B1G MVP and 1st team AA in Keita Bates-Diop, but what a turnaround by a 1st year HC.

Meanwhile, we hire Bz and Manning.
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It’s almost as if talent matters. OSU starts a 5* redshirt junior, a 4* senior, a 4* redshirt senior, a 4* freshman, and a JuCo transfer. Their talent score weighted for experience and minutes is 4.13*. Wake’s this year is 3.7. Next year it will be close to 4.2.
 
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