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Democratic Candidates for POTUS, 2016 edition

Deacsfan27 said:
Bernie needs to drop out of the race so the Dems can rally behind Hillary.
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Doesn't look like that is what he is planning to do:

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sanders-v...e-nominee-083117568--abc-news-topstories.html

Sanders has promised for weeks to spend the summer working to flip party superdelegates, who do not technically vote until the Democratic National Convention in July, and Monday the senator said that much of his future strategy hinged on the results in California. During his final rally before voting in the state, Sanders again said that party officials should look at his standing in the polls against Donald Trump compared to Clinton.

Over the weekend, Sanders said that, in his view, the convention will be “contested" either way, since Clinton is relying on votes from those party officials to hit the necessary total.

Defending his decision to stay in the race, one of his most passionate surrogates, former Ohio Sen. Nina Turner, rallied the crowd with cheers to "fight on," and also promised to take his movement all the way to the convention. Speaking more broadly, musician Dave Matthews told the crowd that the senator and his campaign was just "the beginning."

Barring an overwhelming victory in California tomorrow that puts him in the lead in pledged delegates, it will be hard for Sanders to make a case to superdelegates, who so far have overwhelmingly shown no sign of switching allegiances. It would be unprecedented for them to overturn the popular vote, which Clinton still leads in as well.

"This campaign has been to me an extraordinary experience," Sanders continued during his evening rally. "As I look out as this country and see so many people who love this nation, but who know we can be so much more, it gives me enormous optimism about our future. When we began our campaign, our ideas were considered a fringe campaign and fringe ideas. That is not the case today."

Sanders is currently planning on hosting an election night rally in Los Angeles tomorrow night and then is slated to fly home to Burlington, Vermont Wednesday. His campaign has said he will be holding events in the District of Columbia ahead of its primary June 14.
 
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Obama is endorsing Hillary and presumably called Bernie on Sunday to discuss it. I expect Bernie to bow out tonight or tomorrow
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Obama is endorsing Hillary and presumably called Bernie on Sunday to discuss it. I expect Bernie to bow out tonight or tomorrow
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Well, the Establishment has rigged the entire thing so far. No reason to change anything now.

If Obama does endorse Hillary now, though, I smell at least a little panic in the air. And Bernie's supporters should really take that well...especially if Bernie could pull out a win in California today.
 
bobknightfan said:
Well, the Establishment has rigged the entire thing so far. No reason to change anything now.

If Obama does endorse Hillary now, though, I smell at least a little panic in the air. And Bernie's supporters should really take that well...especially if Bernie could pull out a win in California today.
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Why would Obama endorsing Hillary be a "rigging" of the entire thing?
 
I voted for Bernie and have supported him throughout the process. He is behind in votes. He is behind in delegates. And is behind in super delegates. He's behind in everything. He ran a good campaign. He lost. That's life.

Concede to Hillary after all the states have voted and get to work implementing the policies you've laid out in detail on the campaign trail into the Democrat platform using the new-found influence you garnered from the run.

BKF you are acting quite like the stereotypical millennial about this Bernie/Hillary race that you so frequently decry.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I voted for Bernie and have supported him throughout the process. He is behind in votes. He is behind in delegates. And is behind in super delegates. He's behind in everything. He ran a good campaign. He lost. That's life.

Concede to Hillary after all the states have voted and get to work implementing the policies you've laid out in detail on the campaign trail into the Democrat platform using the new-found influence you garnered from the run.

BKF you are acting quite like the stereotypical millennial about this Bernie/Hillary race that you so frequently decry.
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I don't remember frequently decrying the Bernie/Hillary race.
 
bkf is a perfect Bernie bot. He operated in this realm of delusion 12 years before they even knew what it was.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I voted for Bernie and have supported him throughout the process. He is behind in votes. He is behind in delegates. And is behind in super delegates. He's behind in everything. He ran a good campaign. He lost. That's life.

Concede to Hillary after all the states have voted and get to work implementing the policies you've laid out in detail on the campaign trail into the Democrat platform using the new-found influence you garnered from the run.

BKF you are acting quite like the stereotypical millennial about this Bernie/Hillary race that you so frequently decry.
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Just for the sake of argument, it may be that Bernie feels like he loses all that influence unless he fights all the way to the convention. He may be right, I'm not sure how the platform process works but it's not clear to me that a candidate who has conceded will be able to move the needle very much.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
I voted for Bernie and have supported him throughout the process. He is behind in votes. He is behind in delegates. And is behind in super delegates. He's behind in everything. He ran a good campaign. He lost. That's life.

Concede to Hillary after all the states have voted and get to work implementing the policies you've laid out in detail on the campaign trail into the Democrat platform using the new-found influence you garnered from the run.

BKF you are acting quite like the stereotypical millennial about this Bernie/Hillary race that you so frequently decry.
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The behind by 3 million votes line is not quite accurate because it does not count individual votes from caucus states where Bernie did well.
 
WFFaithful said:
The behind by 3 million votes line is not quite accurate because it does not count individual votes from caucus states where Bernie did well.
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Sure you could also argue that the caucus disproportionately provided Bernie votes compared to a popular vote in those states right?
 
WFFaithful said:
The behind by 3 million votes line is not quite accurate because it does not count individual votes from caucus states where Bernie did well.
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Two of those states held non-binding primaries and Clinton won both. Nebraska and Washington. 538 did an analysis presuming every state was open primary based on demographics, and the results would be about the same.
 
I said this before but if Berniebros want most of their positions supported then living to fight another day is the best bet. Trump as president isn't going to blow things up, if it goes the way most expect it's four years and the democrats run basically another Hillary/Obama type. If you want to continue the slow push towards a true hardcore socialist democrat then elect Hilary, change the platform, and continue to inch your way there.
 
Obama's an affable guy, but he's competitive and relishes going after opponents he doesn't like. Didn't like HRC, was OK with McCain, but hates Mitt and Trump. Loved tweaking Mitt with a picture of Trump's plane in the background of 2012 ads.

Nothing's going to get done between now and November and Obama's chomping at the bit to take shots at Trump. Warren and Cuban are the same way. Obama doesn't love the Clintons, but hates Trump and cares about his legacy. Obama will campaign in NV, CO, WI, NH, and IA. They'll use Biden in PA, OH, and MI. Unless and until Trump gets a decent VP, he doesn't have surrogates who can get any traction in swing states.
 
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