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Daniel Gibson is much quicker than CJ and had longer range. I love CJ but he wont be making an NBA roster.
he's not that quick.
Daniel Gibson is much quicker than CJ and had longer range. I love CJ but he wont be making an NBA roster.
if daniel gibson can get minutes in the nba as a 6'2 2-guard with a fairly limited skillset aside from his range, it's not entirely inconceivable that cj could carve out a spot on a roster as a combo guard somewhere. otherwise, he'll tear it up in europe.
These threads pop up every year and people whom barely pay attention to the NBA always weigh in on our players saying how they can land on a roster. RJ is right, CJ is not a true point guard, doesn't have the speed of NBA pg's or 2 guards, and isn't a distributor. Ask some of our resident big time NBA fans on the NBA thread if they think CJ will latch on to an NBA roster and they will say the same thing.
The NBA has a revolving door for undrafted spot up knock down shooters. CJ is certainly capable of finding his way onto a roster.
Bz has coached CJ for three years. CJ's improvement cannot be denied. You have to give Bz credit.
As for CJ's pro future. There is nothing wrong with making six figures a year while living in Europe.
For aspiring Eurobasket superstars, Wake could be a destination program.
Yes, sir. I wonder if those who attribute a player like CJ's improvements to the head coach really doesn't understand how college basketball works.
For those who advocate this position: do you know when and how often Jeff [Redacted] actually get to work with CJ?
Not trolling at all. As a State fan, I am plenty familiar with our better recent players going on to play in overseas pro leagues. I follow their careers and I see no shame in a career played overseas at all. Not even Rodney Monroe got a fair shake in the NBA.
More NCAA players program should be realistic about their pro prospects. If you fill a college team with future Eurobasket quality players, the program will go far.
Why go to the NBDL for a teacher's salary, when you can make six figures (or more) playing overseas?
Private Workout: Rudy Gay, Steve Novak, [Justin] Gray, [Alex] Loughton
May 23, 2006
DraftExpress attended an insightful workout this past weekend in Suburban Washington DC featuring Rudy Gay, Steve Novak, Justin Gray and Alex Loughton. The hour and a half workout was conducted by trainer Idan Ravin and was one of the most intense and telling ones we’ve seen in the past three years. The fact that the agents whose clients are participating, Lance Young of Octagon for Gay, Gray, Loughton, and Doug Neustadt for Novak, felt they had nothing to hide in is fairly rare, especially this late, and says something about the confidence them and their trainer have in their clients.
The trainer, Idan Ravin, has slowly been establishing himself as one of the best teachers in the country through his coaching each year with a select clientele base that he works with year-round. We’ve been meaning to get out to DC to watch him in action for quite some time now. He’s the lone trainer who can claim to have trained three of the past five draft prospects who ended up winning Rookie of the Year honors after working with him; Chris Paul, Steve Francis and Elton Brand. Other players he’s helped prepare for the draft or trained before or during the NBA season include Carmelo Anthony, Gilbert Arenas, Mike James, Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels and many others. His reputation appears to be well deserved, as the emphasis on and personal instruction through stern and encouraging motivational techniques was evident throughout the workout.
The session started the way most NBA workouts do, with warm-ups and a series of full-court ball-handling drills. The players worked on the type of basic skills they’ll be tested on in the next few weeks, in and outs, crossovers, between the legs, behind the back, spins and other standard ball-handling moves. Mid-range pull-ups, step-backs, and finishing around the basket in a variety of ways was mixed in with a series of other skill oriented drills. 3-point shooting was practiced both from stand-still and off the dribble, and one on one half-court and full-court matchups brought out the competitive side of the prospects in attendance and taught us all we wanted to know about their individual skills.
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Relative to expectations, Justin Gray might have been the biggest surprise of the four players we saw here. Last time we met up with him, he was struggling through a pretty lackluster showing at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament. What we learned here is that he is most certainly a much better prospect in these types of private individual settings where his offensive versatility is really on display. If this workout was any indication, it wouldn’t be a surprise at all to see him shock some teams with how good he looks in the next few weeks, and possibly in the pre-draft camp if he is invited.
Of the four players, Gray was easily the best ball-handler in the drills. He looked smooth and confident at all times, executing the drills to perfection quickly and very much under control. His shot looked terrific both in the drive and kick drills as well as when asked to pull up off the dribble running up and down the floor in the full-court. His footwork is especially impressive, and his instincts as a scorer were always evident.
In the one on one matchups, Gray was very dominant at times. His 3-pointer was falling for him and he was taking the much bigger players off the dribble at will. He took a number of tough contested shots with long arms in his face, but this didn’t seem to bother him even one bit, even though he was a bit streaky at times. When getting to the basket, he finished nicely on more than one occasion with a swooping one-handed lefty floater in the lane that looked highly polished. He scored in almost every way possible in this workout, whether from well beyond the 3-point arc, pulling up from mid-range and in the paint.
Defensively it wasn’t easy to evaluate him since every player here was at least 7 inches taller than him, and they are of course not the type of players he’ll be asked to guard. Shades of his typical lack of defensive awareness did come out at times as we saw this past season at Wake Forest. His shot-selection was at times a bit questionable as well.
After having watched him play extensively over his senior year and realizing how little point guard he has in him, it was nice to again see what made him such a highly touted player to begin with. Someone could certainly take a flyer on him late in the 2nd round as an Eddie House type scorer to bring off the bench, or he could find himself making six figures every year as an absolute killer of a shooting guard in Europe. Either way, he’ll be playing basketball somewhere for a very long time to come.
Bz has coached CJ for three years. CJ's improvement cannot be denied. You have to give Bz credit.
As for CJ's pro future. There is nothing wrong with making six figures a year while living in Europe.
Aren't most European League salaries tax free? And don't American players usually, on top of their salaries, have their living expenses paid for them?