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Ilhan Omar Takes Victory Lap: Resolution 1st Vote Against ‘Anti-Muslim Bigotry’

RJKarl said:
Omar's unwillingness to hold Muslims responsible for 9/11 shows she needs to be marginalized. She's had almost a week to fix her statement and has refused to do so. This is outrageous. She needs to be held accountable.
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Which is worse- RJ's reading comprehension or Brad's understanding of statistics?
 
she should just be ignored. fuck even trumps' constant blathering would be better off ignored. all this 'holding accountable' for every fucking turn of phrase every person ever utters is getting ridiculous
 
RJKarl said:
Omar's unwillingness to hold Muslims responsible for 9/11 shows she needs to be marginalized. She's had almost a week to fix her statement and has refused to do so. This is outrageous. She needs to be held accountable.
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might as well just kill her
 
RJKarl said:
Omar's unwillingness to hold Muslims responsible for 9/11 shows she needs to be marginalized. She's had almost a week to fix her statement and has refused to do so. This is outrageous. She needs to be held accountable.
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WTF? Is the BKF turn happening, rj? Say it ain't so.
 
These are her EXACT words- "“CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something"

"Some people did something"...That's what she said.

She should have said the actions of twenty odd Muslims don't represent what a billion Muslims believe or how they how they act. But by saying "some people" She de facto minimizes what happened.

In no way does this justify the threats upon her or her family's safety or the egregious, bigoted attacks on Muslims in the US and around thew world before and since 9/11. However, to minimize who did the attacks gives those filled with hate an excuse that doesn't need to exist.

Unlike many here, I hold people from all sides accountable and have for over a quarter of a century on Wake boards. It doesn't matter if it's Netanyahu's immoral annexations or Trump's "many fine people" or Omar's "some people did something". Wrong is wrong and needs to be held accountable.

Her words detract from a viable and evil problem.
 
RJKarl said:
These are her EXACT words- "“CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something"

"Some people did something"...That's what she said.

She should have said the actions of twenty odd Muslims don't represent what a billion Muslims believe or how they how they act. But by saying "some people" She de facto minimizes what happened.

In no way does this justify the threats upon her or her family's safety or the egregious, bigoted attacks on Muslims in the US and around thew world before and since 9/11. However, to minimize who did the attacks gives those filled with hate an excuse that doesn't need to exist.

Unlike many here, I hold people from all sides accountable and have for over a quarter of a century on Wake boards. It doesn't matter if it's Netanyahu's immoral annexations or Trump's "many fine people" or Omar's "some people did something". Wrong is wrong and needs to be held accountable.

Her words detract from a viable and evil problem.
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No dude, here are her EXACT words:

“Far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen, and frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it,” Omar said at the event. “CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.”
 
"Some people" minimizes the number of people perpetrated the events of 9/11 compared to "all of us" who were losing civil liberties.
 
That doesn't change anything. Who were those"some people"? Her statement would have been strong but she distracted from it and this seems to be a pattern.

We all agree the discrimination against Muslims is horrific and national disgrace, but her statements have been ham-handed. They have harmed the problem.
 
RJKarl said:
These are her EXACT words- "“CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something"

"Some people did something"...That's what she said.

She should have said the actions of twenty odd Muslims don't represent what a billion Muslims believe or how they how they act. But by saying "some people" She de facto minimizes what happened.

In no way does this justify the threats upon her or her family's safety or the egregious, bigoted attacks on Muslims in the US and around thew world before and since 9/11. However, to minimize who did the attacks gives those filled with hate an excuse that doesn't need to exist.

Unlike many here, I hold people from all sides accountable and have for over a quarter of a century on Wake boards. It doesn't matter if it's Netanyahu's immoral annexations or Trump's "many fine people" or Omar's "some people did something". Wrong is wrong and needs to be held accountable.

Her words detract from a viable and evil problem.
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This is a good, reasoned post.
 
CreamyGoodness said:
And it's why he's going to be elected again.
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No I think statements like “I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose the support of these stupid dipshits that believe I’m some sort of evangelist because their cable TV says so” would be why he could get elected again.
 
 
RJKarl said:
That doesn't change anything. Who were those"some people"? Her statement would have been strong but she distracted from it and this seems to be a pattern.

We all agree the discrimination against Muslims is horrific and national disgrace, but her statements have been ham-handed. They have harmed the problem.
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You literally just blamed 9/11 on Muslims.
 
Creamy, why is Omar more responsible for 9/11 than you are for whatever white nationalist church burning, mass shooting, beating or whatever a white American male does this week? Omar isn't even the same race or nationality as the perpetrators of 9/11? Why should she lose civil liberties because Muslims from a whole different country attacked us on 9/11?
 
PhDeac said:
Creamy, why is Omar more responsible for 9/11 than you are for whatever white nationalist church burning, mass shooting, beating or whatever a white American male does this week? Omar isn't even the same race or nationality as the perpetrators of 9/11? Why should she lose civil liberties because Muslims from a whole different country attacked us on 9/11?
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Probably because nobody here would ever refer to domestic terrorist or white nationalist attack or someone/body did something, because that would be fucked up and insensitive.
 
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