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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/2...g-alleged-demise-christianity-in-europe.html?

The atheist speaker warned that Islam as a religion poses a more dangerous threat than any other, pointing to the fact that moderate Muslims suffer more at the hands of Islam than anyone else, The Christian Post reported.

"It's tempting to say all religions are bad, and I do say all religions are bad, but it's a worse temptation to say all religions are equally bad because they're not," Dawkins said. "If you look at the actual impact that different religions have on the world it's quite apparent that at present the most evil religion in the world has to be Islam.”
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Surprise surprise that Lectro would find agreement with a brutal nationalist dictator. It's been pretty amazing to watch Trump drive American conservatives towards their natural inclinations to fascism, through their open adoption of foreign dictatorships. Who cares if dissidents and minorities are being mass murdered, as long as the country isn't hardline muslim or socialist.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
Surprise surprise that Lectro would find agreement with a brutal nationalist dictator. It's been pretty amazing to watch Trump drive American conservatives towards their natural inclinations to fascism, through their open adoption of foreign dictatorships. Who cares if dissidents and minorities are being mass murdered, as long as the country isn't hardline muslim or socialist.
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Erdogan IS a Muslim you ding dong.
 
BirdinBama said:
Lectro, you are so full of shit.
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You two couldn’t rub your fucking heads together and generate a nickels worth of energy.

Go out and live some life you University fuck sticks. You’ve never lived anywhere, your interactions are in safe spaces and your opinions are stunted and dense because of these facts.
 
And you, Pussyhat, what sort of Muslim nation have you ever lived in you fucking dumbass.

The totalitarian regimes you claim to abhor are simultaneously the ones you sing praises to.

I mean you have to be the most ignorant stooge out here
 
I don't know why you're so upset Lec, i'm happy you found such a likeminded authoritarian idol in President Erdogan. If only President Trump could purge his enemies and dissidents from America, as Erdigon has from Turkey, that would truly MAGA, don't you agree?
 
IamThunderbolt said:
Thanks for both of your responses.

You're right, my presumption was that both your and lectro's opinion about Muslims was based not on relationships, but second hand knowledge or, at best, proximity. I agree, there is much to be discussed and worked out regarding how one lives with adherence to faith and within a diverse country (especially when one's predisposition is to want a country's laws to mirror the laws of your faith, irrespective of others in the country - a question that should be posed to Christian, Muslim, or any faith).

I don't think any faith is above critique, and having a reductive "all are good or bad" discussion isn't helpful, which what tends to happen here. Honestly, both for Christianity and Islam, the best critique comes from within the community rather than without. Maybe you have not been doing this, but most of what bumps this thread is of the "See, I told you Muslims are bad" variety - without nuance or discussion (or even, let's talk about difficulties of merging/integrating cultures). Seeing a rise in anti-Islamic rhetoric has had a real impact on those with whom I work. I see a decline in safety of kids of Muslim immigrants at school, and have seen the letters sent to the Islamic centers in the Triad.

My reaction was probably much more to lectro's assertion that violence is inherent to the belief of Islam, and wanted to know on what basis he made that assertion. That's a very broad assertion and not really played out in the practice of the majority of Muslims, especially those that are in the United States.
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My opinion of Islam is based on human experience and fact. Not as I would want it to be or in any other way associated with feelings. Just the facts of Islam and it’s history.
 
The history of Islam appears to be very similar to the other major religions of the near east, you know, like Judaism and Christianity.
 
Not a historian, but very well acquainted with the history, traditions, and writings of all the world's faiths.
 
BirdinBama said:
Not a historian, but very well acquainted with the history, traditions, and writings of all the world's faiths.
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then I don't understand your statement, surely you must understand that there are huge differences between early Islam and early Christianity, not to mention between Jesus of Nazareth and Mohammed
 
sailordeac said:
then I don't understand your statement, surely you must understand that there are huge differences between early Islam and early Christianity, not to mention between Jesus of Nazareth and Mohammed
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Sure, Christianity and Islam are different in some respects...but they are the same in the most important respect, that they are both made up.
 
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