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LAST US POW RETURNED from the Taliban

So any death in horrible situations is unacceptable and unforgivable to you? Fantastic.
A Republican led investigation into that awful tragedy said that nothing could have been done to save Ambassador Stevens' or the other 3 men's lives. Yet, you still try to use it as a political point on a meaningless message board. You're a charm.

You are so pathetically predictable and make just awful arguments, jhmd. Please try harder. Thanks.
 
Also, jhmd, I ask again, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you such an awful human being?
 
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jhmd2000 said:
YMMV.

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lol
 
UNCG Deac said:
The problem is that we aren't drone striking them later. Several released terrorists have ended up back on the battle field according to the White House.

Obama screwed up big-time but politically this is water under the bridge. He successfully hid the results past the November elections, and his bad Iran deal will have a bigger negative impact on the Democrats in 2016. There is no way they will escape that one because everyone hates Iran.

I hope they give Bergdahl the death penalty, as well as the remaining terrorists that we have captured.
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really? b/c as of yesterday:

A State Department official, though, disagreed with the characterization of the intelligence and how it relates to the “Taliban Five’s” activities.
“None of the five individuals has returned to the battlefield and none of the five have left Qatar,” the official said. “Since their transfer many actions have been taken to restrict the actions of these individuals, and they are all being closely monitored by the United States and Qatar.
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deacvision7 said:
So any death in horrible situations is unacceptable and unforgivable to you? Fantastic.
A Republican led investigation into that awful tragedy said that nothing could have been done to save Ambassador Stevens' or the other 3 men's lives. Yet, you still try to use it as a political point on a meaningless message board. You're a charm.

You are so pathetically predictable and make just awful arguments, jhmd. Please try harder. Thanks.
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I debunked your sweeping and self-serving, categorical imperative pronouncement with four letters and a tinypic. Sorry for partying.
 
debunked how? he was a captive of the taliban or the victim of a embassy storming murder?
 
ImTheCaptain said:
debunked how? he was a captive of the taliban or the victim of a embassy storming murder?
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*sigh*

Just because you guys have ignored his requests for more security and evac with the dedication and commitment of the then-serving Secretary of State doesn't mean they didn't happen. Chris Stevens and the other three people killed were the epitome of men left behind: people we sent into the field unsupported, who asked for more help, didn't get it, and got killed in attacks that every other Western interest saw coming (and showed their foresight with their withdrawal the prior Spring). You don't have to make up fairy tales about videos if you had listened to requests for more security.
 
you do realize these situations are not analogous, right? though i do enjoy your trolling
 
ImTheCaptain said:
you do realize these situations are not analogous, right? though i do enjoy your trolling
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Right. They're not analogous because Chris Stevens didn't do anything wrong, and was more deserving of this Administration's efforts than someone who walked off his post.
 
so, you honestly think that if Stevens had been taken POW the administration would have refused to negotiate for his release or affect a rescue operation?
 
ImTheCaptain said:
so, you honestly think that if Stevens had been taken POW the administration would have refused to negotiate for his release or affect a rescue operation?
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I honestly think dv7 made a sweeping, emotionally needy pronouncement that took less then five seconds to refute with the image of a man being dragged through the streets after having been left behind by his chain of command. Apparently "Leaving people behind" is this year's voter fraud. #neverhappens
 
so, then you agree with me that the situations are not at all the same and that Obama would have tried to get him back. glad we can find some common ground
 
jhmd2000 said:
*sigh*

Just because you guys have ignored his requests for more security and evac with the dedication and commitment of the then-serving Secretary of State doesn't mean they didn't happen. Chris Stevens and the other three people killed were the epitome of men left behind: people we sent into the field unsupported, who asked for more help, didn't get it, and got killed in attacks that every other Western interest saw coming (and showed their foresight with their withdrawal the prior Spring). You don't have to make up fairy tales about videos if you had listened to requests for more security.
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Slow down. Who are the "you guys" you are referring to?

"For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.
[GOP vice presidential nominee Paul] Ryan, [Rep. Darrell] Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. "
 
deacvision7 said:
I 100% make that trade every time. We don't leave men behind. No matter what bullshit they did. We don't leave men behind. Period.


The fuck is wrong with you?
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DV, this is just silly on so many levels.

1) If a soldier willfully walks away from his post to join or aid the enemy, he is not a POW, but a traitor. He deserves whatever fate befalls him.
2) Even if he was captured serving "with honor and distinction," (which he was not, contrary to the Rose Garden fiasco and Susan Rice's lies) you do not trade a pawn for 5 queens (chess metaphor). They asked specifically for these 5 guys. We didn't even try and talk them down...how about two of these guys and a terrorist to be named later?
3) The admin had three other options to get him back. (Snatch and Grab opp, Using Pakistani Intellegence (ISI) and a third party intermediary) They chose the worst option.
4) Lastly, if it means sacrificing 100 soldiers/lives to get 1 man back, you leave him behind.
 
Sgt Hulka said:
DV, this is just silly on so many levels.

1) If a soldier willfully walks away from his post to join or aid the enemy, he is not a POW, but a traitor. He deserves whatever fate befalls him.
2) Even if he was captured serving "with honor and distinction," (which he was not, contrary to the Rose Garden fiasco and Susan Rice's lies) you do not trade a pawn for 5 queens (chess metaphor). They asked specifically for these 5 guys. We didn't even try and talk them down...how about two of these guys and a terrorist to be named later?
3) The admin had three other options to get him back. (Snatch and Grab opp, Using Pakistani Intellegence (ISI) and a third party intermediary) They chose the worst option.
4) Lastly, if it means sacrificing 100 soldiers/lives to get 1 man back, you leave him behind.
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Aren't these two somewhat contradictory? They went with the option that would save the most American lives.

How do you know #2? I haven't followed this story, but that seems like specific knowledge.
 
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