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Malaysian Airline Flight MH370

Malaysia has asked Thailand to move their search efforts to the Andaman Sea, thinking the plane may have turned around and attempted to return. Haven't heard any reason for that line of thinking though.
 
Screamindemon3 said:
Still nothing. Baffling
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The Vietnamese think they might've found a door from it. Also:
"The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," a source involved in the investigations in Malaysia told Reuters.

If the plane had plunged intact from close to its cruising altitude, breaking up only on impact with the water, search teams would have expected to find a fairly concentrated pattern of debris, said the source, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly.


Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/n...ed_in_mid-air_source.html#VcQXAppAv8YPtzY0.99
 
It took em a few days to find the crash site from the flight from Brazil to Paris a few years ago.
 
ITK said:
It took em a few days to find the crash site from the flight from Brazil to Paris a few years ago.
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It was just about two years before they found any of the wreckage. Then it too another year to recover what they could.
 
I know it is irrational and flying MH is probably safer this week than it was last week, but I'm still not thrilled about flying Malaysia tomorrow.

(To turn it into a humble brag, I'll provide the connection details: Male, Maldives to KL, KL to Singapore.)
 
2m ago
Asked to clarify the appearance of passengers on stolen passports, Rahman bizarrely suggested they looked like the black Italian footballer Mario Balotelli.

8m ago
Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman is giving another news conference in Kuala Lumpa.

He confirmed that the search area is being increased and that the operation is being “intensified”.

Investigators have examined the CCTV footage of passengers boarding the plane, and said all the security procedures were complied with.

The men travelling on stolen passports “were not Asian looking”, Rahman said.

17m ago
A Thai travel agent who booked the men with stolen passports onto the missing plane, has told the FT that the tickets were arranged with an “Iranian contact” on behalf of clients looking for cheap tickets to Europe.

Benjaporn Krutnait, owner of the Grand Horizon travel agency in Pattaya, Thailand, said the Iranian, a long-term business contact who she knew only as “Mr Ali”, first asked her to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men on March 1. Ms Benjaporn initially reserved one of the men on a Qatar Airways flight and the other on Etihad.

But the tickets expired when Ms Benjaporn did not hear back from Mr Ali. When he contacted her again on Thursday, she rebooked the men on the Malaysia Airlines flight through Beijing because it was the cheapest available. Ms Benjaporn booked the tickets through China Southern Airlines via a code share arrangement.

A friend of Mr Ali paid Ms Benjaporn cash for the tickets, she said, adding that it was quite common for people to book tickets in Pattaya through middle men such as Mr Ali, who then take a commission
 
ITK said:
That's actually not true. They found parts of the plane and a few bodies on the surface a few weeks after. It did take two years to find the black boxes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447
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CNN and ap have been saying for the past two days that the crash was in June 2009 and the first wreckage was found in may 2011. In this case I tend to trust cnn and the ap news more.
 
WakeGal said:
CNN and ap have been saying for the past two days that the crash was in June 2009 and the first wreckage was found in may 2011. In this case I tend to trust cnn and the ap news more.
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Well I can't believe they are broadcasting misinformation like that. A door, some seats, 50 bodies and some luggage were all found on the surface in June of 2009. The main parts of the plane and the black boxes and more bodies were found in 2011. There are pictures from June of 2009 of them taking the door out of the water. It is in the official flight report. Its probably a case of what CNN is defining as "wreckage" and yes, the major wreckage was found in 2011, but they did find stuff on the surface in a few days after the crash. See this article posted in June 2009 talking about finding the tail:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...found-helps-hunt-black-boxes-article-1.375817
 
WakeGal said:
CNN and ap have been saying for the past two days that the crash was in June 2009 and the first wreckage was found in may 2011. In this case I tend to trust cnn and the ap news more.
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Guarantee if CNN goes back they will find footage of them broadcasting the pictures of the seats being pulled from the ocean in 2009. I can still remember it pretty clearly.
 
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i don't get the 'terrorism practice' theory. If you're a terrorist organization and you think you've found a loop-hole to security, why would you "practice" using that loophole, therefore calling the world's attention to a potential security gap that could potentially be resolved before you can use it on a grander stage? Wouldn't you want to try and exploit on a more significant stage and then immediately take credit for it once successful?
 
Yeah, the practice theory makes negative sense. Suicide attackers are expendable. It was either a targeted attack or not a terrorist attack.
 
I've read that the two people traveling on stolen passports had their tickets bought in Pattaya, Thailand by a third party who is apparently from Iran and a long time customer at the travel agency. They had connections to Amsterdam and then Cologne and Frankfurt separately. They've been identified on CCTV cameras entering the airport and boarding. They've been described as looking like Mario Balotelli, which is kind of hilarious. Sounds to me like they were trying to enter the EU illegally, unrelated to the plane going missing.
 
I saw this line and wondered how often this happens:

"Five passengers ended up not boarding the aircraft. Their bags were removed and were not on board the jet when it disappeared, Rahman said at Monday's briefing."

Does this happen a lot? People get their bags on the plane but then don't take the flight?
 
awakeandready said:
I saw this line and wondered how often this happens:

"Five passengers ended up not boarding the aircraft. Their bags were removed and were not on board the jet when it disappeared, Rahman said at Monday's briefing."

Does this happen a lot? People get their bags on the plane but then don't take the flight?
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I've been at airport bars where people have gotten drunk and realized they missed their boarding/flight. Seems like it would be a pretty rare occurrence though unless the line for security took ages.
 
just read an article in the WaPo that the oil slicks and debris are not from the plane. they're now searching the Adaman Sea, which would mean that the plane turned around and crossed the Malaysian Peninsula. the plot thickens...
 
awakeandready said:
I saw this line and wondered how often this happens:

"Five passengers ended up not boarding the aircraft. Their bags were removed and were not on board the jet when it disappeared, Rahman said at Monday's briefing."

Does this happen a lot? People get their bags on the plane but then don't take the flight?
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This happened to me a few weeks ago. I was with 7 other folks from work, we were supposed to fly to Orlando for a meeting- as we were about to board we got a call that our meeting was cancelled- we all ended up not boarding, some of our bags made it off the plane in time, some (including mine) didn't. We were surprised you could have a bag sent along without boarding the plane nowadays.
 
HoosierDeac said:
This happened to me a few weeks ago. I was with 7 other folks from work, we were supposed to fly to Orlando for a meeting- as we were about to board we got a call that our meeting was cancelled- we all ended up not boarding, some of our bags made it off the plane in time, some (including mine) didn't. We were surprised you could have a bag sent along without boarding the plane nowadays.
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yep, happened to me a few years ago on business. i was leaving Dulles on a flight that was so badly delayed that i would miss my connection at O'Hare. we decided it made more sense to stay and do the mtg. via call, so i went home but they couldn't get the bag off. bag went to O'Hare and was returned to me the next day.
 
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