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MBB: William & Mary @ WF -- 7pm ACC Network+ ESPN+

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Wednesday night, Coach Forbes takes the first step to lead WF basketball out of the abyss and into an era of relevancy as the Deacs host the William & Mary Tribe. Here is the skinny on our opening night opponent.

Coach and the 2020-21 season: 42 year-old Dane Fischer is now in his third season in Williamsburg. Fischer played hoop at D-3 Ithaca, then coached as an assistant at D-3 Williams (home of our Dave Clawson), Bucknell and George Mason before getting the head William and Mary gig (not sure what on Fischer's resume' merited the hire). With former Tribe coach Tony Shaver's players, Fischer had a strong first year for the Tribe going 21-11 and finishing 2nd in the CAA (#195 in KP ratings). Last year was a disaster as COVID (William and Mary had 3 week COVID shutdown in February) and transfers depleted the Tribe roster, as W&M went 7-10 playing a soft schedule and falling to a #302 KP rating. The Tribe played one game against a team rated in the top 150 last season, UVA, and the Hoos throttled the Tribe by 36. William and Mary struggled on offense (#291) and defense (#278). Other than making FTs (#57) and not fouling on defense (#18 in opponent FTA per FGA), William and Mary was mediocre to awful in every metric. The Tribe was a bad shooting team, 46.1% (#308) effective FG% and 28.7% (#338) from 3. Defensively, the W&M didn't force TOs (#283) and was dominated on the boards (#303 in offensive rebounding %).

2021-22 roster: The Tribe's leading scorer from last season, Luke Loewe (16 ppg) transferred to Minnesota. W&M added 6-7 swing Brandon Carroll, a transfer from D-2 Florida Southern (averaged 16 ppg), and freshman PG Tyler Rice (brother plays for G'town this year). Otherwise, it's pretty much the same crew that struggled last year. Here are the projected starters and first players off the bench for the Tribunal:

PG 6-1 So. Yuri Covington: really struggled with TOs last year (32.2 TO rate); twice as many TOs as assists, yikes, as a result will likely see the frosh Tyler Rice play a lot at point
SG 6-5 So. Connor Kochera: W&M's best player; averaged; 13.4 ppg; 5 rpg; 36% from 3; scored 30 points and 12 boards in a win over Towson (if he blows up, would be a transfer candidate)
SF 6-7 Grad transfer Brandon Carroll: 16 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 37% from 3 at D2 Florida Southern; started his career at D1 Bryant; transferred after his sophomore year; athletic threat to dunk from anywhere
PF: 6-7 Sr. Quinn Blair: 12 ppg, 6 rpg; adept at drawing fouls; led the CAA in FT rate; likes to shoot 3s, but didn't make many last year (28%)
C: 6-9 Sr. Mehkel Harvey: inept offensively, but a rim protector (2.4 bpg) and rebounder 2nd in the CAA in offensive rebound rate

Bench:

6-9 So Ben Wight: started more games at center than Harvey; averaged 4 ppg and 3.4 rpg;
6-1 Fr. Tyler Rice: very fast, played well in W&M's public scrimmage, can shoot the 3, if he doesn't start on Wednesday, Rice is likely to work his way into the starting lineup at some point
6-5 Miguel Ayesa: one trick pony -- three point sniper; took 33 shots last year, 32 of them were from 3; not kidding; shot 32% from 3; played only two minutes after January 23 after COVID outbreak.

Score projection: KP projects a 79-65 final. Really hoping for a line around 14. If so, will pound the Deacs. WF's current power rating is dragged down by "priors", meaning that those setting the lines largely base WF's current power rating on last year's team that was side tracked by COVID and then collapsed to finish last year (and also largely transferred or graduated). With the incoming transfers and newcomers, last year's flaccid Deacs bears no resemblance to the WF team that will take the court on Wednesday. This WF team is big, deep and will get after the opponent on defense (WF dominated SC in the secret scrimmage). Also, with everyone competing for minutes, think that the Deacs will push the margin out even when Forbes goes deep into his bench against the Tribe.

BTW, it's pathetic that WF opening game can't even find its way onto ACCN. That's how far the perception of WF basketball as fallen. The league has its own network, yet they can't find the programming slot for WF's opening game, and it's the same case for WF next 3 games all available only via streaming. Essentially, WF men's basketball is getting the same exposure as a D3 field hockey.
 
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My biggest concern is that Dane Fischer coached at Williams College, which means (as macktheknife likes to opine) he is clearly smarter than all of us.

Agree that this is a play on the WFU side at anything near 14 points.
 
My biggest concern is that Dane Fischer coached at Williams College, which means (as macktheknife likes to opine) he is clearly smarter than all of us.

Agree that this is a play on the WFU side at anything near 14 points.

Yeah, but he didn't GO to Williams, so I think we're okay.
 
My biggest concern is that Dane Fischer coached at Williams College, which means (as macktheknife likes to opine) he is clearly smarter than all of us.

Agree that this is a play on the WFU side at anything near 14 points.

Both of his parents went to Wake Forest and his dad played football at Wake, so the game is extra meaningful for Dane Fischer.
 
so is the game televised or not? Thread title indicates it is but Pilchard's last paragraph indicates it isn't.

It is televised via streaming service on ACC Network+ and ESPN+. It is not on a cable or satellite station like ACCN or ESPN.
 
MBB: William & Mary @ WF -- 7pm ACC Network+ ESPN+

But if you have a cable/streaming subscription, you’ll be able to watch it on ACCNX which is the ESPN app. Same goes for our next three games as well.
 
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But if you have a cable/streaming subscription, you’ll be able to watch it on ACCNX which is the ESPN app.

Unless you have Comcast/Xfinity because they don't carry ACCN.

I have to login with a buddy's Verizon FioS account.
 
I would assume most posters have gotten ACCN by now. It’s necessary to be a Wake fan.
 
But if you have a cable/streaming subscription, you’ll be able to watch it on ACCNX which is the ESPN app. Same goes for our next three games as well.

Available on Youtube TV?
 
ESPN app with a YouTube TV subscription.
 
Thing I am interested in seeing on Wednesday:

- how big is the crowd to welcome Forbes without capacity limits for the first time?
- who is the first guard off the bench? (presumably Cam, could be Carter)
- can we post Dallas up or will he be a perimeter threat only? Important to be able to post up your big and play through him down low
- number of assisted baskets. We should be able to score freely against this team, but will we do that by sharing the ball or by relying on our superior individual talent?
- can we keep turnovers below 12? If we can't take care of the ball against a low major team we won't in the ACC
 
My list only has two bullets for this one:
*Defensive intensity
*Beating the point spread
 
So who plays on Wake's team this year? Is the Kenny G looking kid still there? Mac MacClung? Anyone else worth a damn?
 
If anyone has a couple tix you can't use PM me. Might take my son and go watch.
 
Thing I am interested in seeing on Wednesday:

- how big is the crowd to welcome Forbes without capacity limits for the first time?
- who is the first guard off the bench? (presumably Cam, could be Carter)
- can we post Dallas up or will he be a perimeter threat only? Important to be able to post up your big and play through him down low
- number of assisted baskets. We should be able to score freely against this team, but will we do that by sharing the ball or by relying on our superior individual talent?
- can we keep turnovers below 12? If we can't take care of the ball against a low major team we won't in the ACC

Dallas is not going to be an inside post threat. He may be 7ft but he has no bulk and couldn’t dominate inside against WSSU.
 
So who plays on Wake's team this year? Is the Kenny G looking kid still there? Mac MacClung? Anyone else worth a damn?

Hope this is being sarcastic but if you haven't kept up, we brought in four impressive transfers:

Jake LaRavia (junior from Indiana St, 6'10" skilled scoring forward)
Alondes Williams (athletic grad student guard from Oklahoma, played solid minutes on a tournament team)
Khadim Sy (grad student forward/center who started at VT, played a year of JuCo, then played two years of solid minutes at Ole Miss)
Dallas Walton (grad student skilled inside/out center who started most games for Colorado last year during their tournament run)

We also brought in three exciting freshmen to join Whitt who is still a freshman for all intents and purposes

Cam Hildreth (impressive scoring guard who played in the British professional league against grown men as a teenager. Will see solid minutes)
Rob McCray (extraordinarily athletic guard from South Carolina. His standing vertical would be top 5 in NBA combine history)
Lucas Taylor (guard from Wake Forest, NC)

We also have four scholarship returners:

Isaiah Mucius
Daivien Williamson
Tariq Ingraham
Carter Whitt

This team is different than the last 10 years.
 
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