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Model Minority Myth

SJWs do ignore Asians though. Not enough opportunities for virtue signaling.

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So is catamount actually Asian? I can't remember the last time I heard an Asian person say "Hey! I'm Asian."
 
Alright, I've known catamount for a long time. He is NOT full fledged Asian but he is 1/2 Chinese. I would go as far as to say he is much prouder of his Chinese heritage than his red blooded American heritage. So, while he posts like a total privileged, cocky American redneck troll, he isn't like that IRL and, he actually is indeed part Chinese. Just to set the record straight.
 
Is he like that redneck Korean comedian who was somewhat popular in the 90s years ago?
 
Awesome.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
So are we going to ignore hard facts like 85 percent of Asians are born in 2 parent households vs 20% of African Americans. Or that Asians place such a large focus on education that they are the highest educated racial demographic in America? But it feels like racism is the reason for the differences between racial groups. Even though just using these boards as a microcosm, highly racist jokes against Asian Americans are accepted and perpetuated. The equivalent jokes about African Americans would leave users facing permanent bans.
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Apparently, yes. Don't forget the use of all 12 Bhutanese in the US to support the argument being made.

It is true, however, that the history of discrimination faced by blacks is different from that faced by Asians. But that doesn't invalidate "racial resentment" or whatever label people want to put on it. Putting a label on it ignores legitimate, longstanding problems within the black community that even black community leaders have long acknowledged. To me, this article screams of black folks just not wanting to hear this shit from a conservative, white, British nancy boy who can't relate to their plight. If it had come from a black preacher, it would be greeted with a chorus of mmm-hmmms and amens.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Apparently, yes. Don't forget the use of all 12 Bhutanese in the US to support the argument being made.

It is true, however, that the history of discrimination faced by blacks is different from that faced by Asians. But that doesn't invalidate "racial resentment" or whatever label people want to put on it. Putting a label on it ignores legitimate, longstanding problems within the black community that even black community leaders have long acknowledged. To me, this article screams of black folks just not wanting to hear this shit from a conservative, white, British nancy boy who can't relate to their plight. If it had come from a black preacher, it would be greeted with a chorus of mmm-hmmms and amens.
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This article was written by an Asian-American NPR specialist on race relations and quoted multiple Asian-American professors who specialize in those exact same of race relations as well.

I don't think this article "screams of black folks" response to anything.

Also, for the 1028341092731983271th time, there can be multiple issues at hand without it being "one or the other".

1. There is real racial resentment towards the black community
2. There are "legitimate, longstanding, problems within the black community"
 
The only person I listen to about race is someone that has black/Asian and Hispanic/white parents or black/white and Hispanic/Asian parents or black/Hispanic and white/Asian parents. If you aren't four quarters not legit.
 
It never stops being amazing how some Republicans stay unaware of the overlap between untrustworthy racist white conservatives and white conservatives always willing to diagnose problems within black culture. They know that no one is listening to their advice, but they love the sound of their own voice.
 
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People also don't seem to get that "real resentment towards the black community" among those white people results in "legitimate, longstanding problems within the black community." How could it not?
 
TownieDeac said:
May I direct you to the article I posted? You seem to be ignoring the 2 central arguments of the piece:

"1) ignoring the role that selective recruitment of highly educated Asian immigrants has played in Asian American success followed by

2) making a flawed comparison between Asian Americans and other groups, particularly Black Americans, to argue that racism, including more than two centuries of black enslavement, can be overcome by hard work and strong family values."
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A valid point, but we haven't exactly selectively recruited highly education Asian immigrants. That facet of Asian immigration is relatively recent. What we have done is take in a ton of southeast Asian immigrants since the 70s due to the Vietnam War. Koreans before that. There has also been a ton of integration with mixed marriages involving overseas personnel (mostly military). Japanese and Chinese came over prior to that to work shit jobs.

The underlying current here is that there is a focus and emphasis on education.
 
PhDeac said:
People also don't seem to get that "real resentment towards the black community" among those white people results in "legitimate, longstanding problems within the black community." How could it not?
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Kind of a simplistic take. Of course a sustained history of racism and slavery has overlapped into some current issues and problems. But it has also provided an excuse. The argument is over how much is really keeping the black man down versus how much is being used as an excuse to explain the black man being down. Slavery and Jim Crow did not create the current upheaval of the black family structure, nor did they create the blase attitudes toward education. If you want to make the argument the economic circumstances created by slavery and Jim Crow contributed toward single parent homes, shitty education systems, and an environment where a kid can get more respect and money peddling dope on the streets than he can getting a degree, I'm sure that's an interesting argument, but it will only take you so far.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Kind of a simplistic take. Of course a sustained history of racism and slavery has overlapped into some current issues and problems. But it has also provided an excuse. The argument is over how much is really keeping the black man down versus how much is being used as an excuse to explain the black man being down. Slavery and Jim Crow did not create the current upheaval of the black family structure, nor did they create the blase attitudes toward education. If you want to make the argument the economic circumstances created by slavery and Jim Crow contributed toward single parent homes, shitty education systems, and an environment where a kid can get more respect and money peddling dope on the streets than he can getting a degree, I'm sure that's an interesting argument, but it will only take you so far.
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Facepalm
 
EatLeadCommie said:
A valid point, but we haven't exactly selectively recruited highly education Asian immigrants. That facet of Asian immigration is relatively recent. What we have done is take in a ton of southeast Asian immigrants since the 70s due to the Vietnam War. Koreans before that. There has also been a ton of integration with mixed marriages involving overseas personnel (mostly military). Japanese and Chinese came over prior to that to work shit jobs.

The underlying current here is that there is a focus and emphasis on education.
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EatLeadCommie said:
Kind of a simplistic take. Of course a sustained history of racism and slavery has overlapped into some current issues and problems. But it has also provided an excuse. The argument is over how much is really keeping the black man down versus how much is being used as an excuse to explain the black man being down. Slavery and Jim Crow did not create the current upheaval of the black family structure, nor did they create the blase attitudes toward education. If you want to make the argument the economic circumstances created by slavery and Jim Crow contributed toward single parent homes, shitty education systems, and an environment where a kid can get more respect and money peddling dope on the streets than he can getting a degree, I'm sure that's an interesting argument, but it will only take you so far.
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Wow.
 
To the repper (who is also probably the tagger; I can't imagine two different people want my opinion on this thread), I shall not rise to the bait. I can't make a better argument than the disparate outcomes, and if the disparate outcomes didn't persuade you, what chance has public school filth like myself?

If you think that there is nothing to be learned from the Asian-American experience, it seems to me you already have your answer. Don't promote that model. Dismiss it and move on with your better plan. It needn't be more complicated than that.
 
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