NFL Super Bowl XLIX Sunday Game Thread

[liveanddiedeac]

Throwing the ball is OK, just don't throw it right into the middle of the defense. There's so little room to work with in the end zone, gotta go to the outside

That's part of it being such a bad call. It was a bad call not to run it with Lynch, it was an even worse call to try that particular play. Running that play it was pretty much a given that a defender would be close, a quick hard throw like that has more potential to be bobbled up in the air and picked off, too. Carroll said one reason they threw was because the Pats had their goal line package in, so wouldn't that make the outside the weakest part of the defense to attack? If you were going to throw, that fade where only the Seattle receiver can catch it or it falls incomplete is the only pass call that makes sense. It was just the wrong call no matter how you look at it in my opinion.

 

[TownieDeac]

There's great potential for advanced stats in football, but the big difference is taking into account 11 vs. 11 instead of pitcher vs. hitter or 5 vs. 5.

Well playcalling is such a bigger deal in football than baseball and basketball too. I feel like advanced analytics are more useful in the latter two sports w.r.t. roster building than most in game decisions.

 

[ThinkingWithMyDeac]

Malcom Butler said that they knew the Seahawks have thrown on 4th and 1 and knew what potential play they were running. Said they knew it was a pick play and the reason why Browner jams at the line is to eliminate the rub on him. Also Butler said he was beat in practice with that play and Belichick told him he has to make that play and beat his man to the spot. Wouldn't surprise me with the amount of film Belichick digests.

 

[PhDeac]

Well playcalling is such a bigger deal in football than baseball and basketball too. I feel like advanced analytics are more useful in the latter two sports w.r.t. roster building than most in game decisions.

Yeah. I'm curious when the NFL is going to utilize the SportVU technology. That could help dramatically with playcalling. If coaches could incorporate real plays into some type of Madden-like simulator and change up variables based on player tendencies and such, that would be incredible.

 

[TownieDeac]

My understanding is that a lot of the line stuff is hard to reliably and usefully quantify.

 

[TownieDeac]

*Disclaimer* I'm no game theory expert, though. *Disclaimer*

 

[PhDeac]

My understanding is that a lot of the line stuff is hard to reliably and usefully quantify.

Good point. You'd need the camera to recognize how they're using their hands and feet, not just their position on the field. But it would be very useful for the passing game on both sides of the field.

 

[2&2 Slider To Leyritz]

Malcom Butler said that they knew the Seahawks have thrown on 4th and 1 and knew what potential play they were running. Said they knew it was a pick play and the reason why Browner jams at the line is to eliminate the rub on him. Also Butler said he was beat in practice with that play and Belichick told him he has to make that play and beat his man to the spot. Wouldn't surprise me with the amount of film Belichick digests.

Or, more likely, that the Patriots were spying on the Seahawks' practices.

 

[ONW]

Or, more likely, that the Patriots were spying on the Seahawks' practices.

Oh no he did ent....

 

[dartsndeacs]

went back and found your "bet" proposal

i doubt anyone would agree to these dumb terms, because run/run wasn't the only other viable option on the table to finish the game

as many have said, pass isn't the worst idea on second down though the play call was abysmal even given the package

still, run pass run is still on the table with a timeout too

Cept if you run first you know 3rd down has to be a pass. Guess they didnt have these types of questions on the SATs

 

[TownieDeac]

keep reading palma, you were incorrect even on the terms of your own dumb bet

 

[Go]

Interesting point someone made...lets say Bill B wasn't gonna use his timeout.

If you run on 2nd down, call a T.O. w/ about 15-18 secs left if you don't score. Then you're gonna HAVE to throw it. I'm not sure why they wouldn't give Russell an option to run/throw

 

[Manifest Destiny]

Won a fuck ton of money off of this game. I LOVE THE PATS! I LOVE BRADY! I LOVE AMERICA!

 

[wsc8521s]

You are one lucky fuck

 

[liveanddiedeac]

 

[freakadeac]

Lynch has 15 TD and 21 non-TDs in his career from the 1yd line, which is OK but not that great

For comparison AP is 28 TD for 14 non-TDs in his career

Also this was the first INT from the 1yd line this season

All reasons why, although a bad call, this isn't the 'worst play call in the history of sports'

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[Biff Tannen]

Anybody else surprised Gronkowski didn't get thrown out of the game, even though his punches were in retaliation?

 

[HuskyDeac]

Anybody else surprised Gronkowski didn't get thrown out of the game, even though his punches were in retaliation?

The best part of that is Slater trying to stop things and then just deciding to jump up and down and celebrate instead.

 

[dartsndeacs]

Oh hai fivefhirtyeight

 

[bmoneydeac]

Lol