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Official 2018-19 NBA Season Thread - NBA Finals Raptors Win #WeTheNorth

DeaconSig said:
The Davis thing is a little strange. On the one hand, he is clearly an unbelievable player and one of the 5-10 best guys in the league. On the other, he hasn't won shit in 8 years. I feel like other great players have carried shittier teams to more success.

Maybe he is better as a #2 option instead of a #1.
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Who other than LeBron?
 
RChildress107 said:
Who other than LeBron?
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The Pelicans have never made it out of the 2nd round. In 2015, James Harden took the Rockets to the Western Conference Finals (three rounds) and the other 4 starters were: Jason Terry, Josh Smith, Dwight Howard (an aging ineffective Dwight Howard), Trevor Ariza. The other Rockets that played a major roll on that team were: Terrence Jones, Patrick Beverley, Donatas Motiejunas. There are other examples: Kawhi Leonard and the 2017 NBA playoffs. If you are among the top 3 players in the game, getting past the NBA 2nd round is not an impossible task even with a limited roster surrounding you.

Watch the Greek Freak do it this year.
 
Pilchard said:
The Pelicans have never made it out of the 2nd round. In 2015, James Harden took the Rockets to the Western Conference Finals (three rounds) and the other 4 starters were: Jason Terry, Josh Smith, Dwight Howard (an aging ineffective Dwight Howard), Trevor Ariza. The other Rockets that played a major roll on that team were: Terrence Jones, Patrick Beverley, Donatas Motiejunas. There are other examples: Kawhi Leonard and the 2017 NBA playoffs. If you are among the top 3 players in the game, getting past the NBA 2nd round is not an impossible task even with a limited roster surrounding you.

Watch the Greek Freak do it this year.
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I had forgotten how bad that Rockets team was (and even then they were gifted a conference finals birth). Not sure you can count Kawhi since I’m pretty sure Pop could take over the Pelicans today and coach them to the conference finals.
 
Here's a thought. Bball fans in Seattle are looking at the AD trade as a way to get a team. NO has never really been a bball town or area. If Davis is gone and Holiday tries to force a trade, the Pels may not draw flies in the stands or for local TV/radio revenues.

It may be a perfect storm for the NBA to return to Seattle.
 
Pilchard said:
The Pelicans have never made it out of the 2nd round. In 2015, James Harden took the Rockets to the Western Conference Finals (three rounds) and the other 4 starters were: Jason Terry, Josh Smith, Dwight Howard (an aging ineffective Dwight Howard), Trevor Ariza. The other Rockets that played a major roll on that team were: Terrence Jones, Patrick Beverley, Donatas Motiejunas. There are other examples: Kawhi Leonard and the 2017 NBA playoffs. If you are among the top 3 players in the game, getting past the NBA 2nd round is not an impossible task even with a limited roster surrounding you.

Watch the Greek Freak do it this year.
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Getting to the East finals << Getting to the West Finals
 
Eastern and Western Conference are not apples to apples

Jrue went off too, but the takedown of Portland last playoffs was impressive and no shame in losing in 5 to possibly the best basketball team ever built

New Orleans has had terrible bench play over the last few years -- awful on both sides of the ball: http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/19/7/eff/1-1

it can be hard to extract the individual from the team, but I don't think the Pels' lack of success is indicative of AD not being able to be a #1
 
Harden has been doing it this with 10-day contract players starting (some guy named Daren House who averaged double digits through his two 10day contracts and then was returned to wherever he came from).
 
Dirk’s championship team didn’t really have a second star. Old ass Jason Kidd, past his prime Shawn Marion, and Tyson Chandler.
 
I think it's harder for a big man to carry a lesser team because he doesn't have the ball in his hands as much.
 
Bucks apparently going after AD as well. Giannis and AD together???? Not going to happen, but that would be something.
 
deac29 said:
Dirk’s championship team didn’t really have a second star. Old ass Jason Kidd, past his prime Shawn Marion, and Tyson Chandler.
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Yeah but that roster (or franchise) wasn’t bad by any means (neither is Giannis’s by the way).

I don’t buy that just because you haven’t carry a team of scrubs past the second round in a stacked conference you can’t be the number 1 guy on a championship team.
 
RJKarl said:
Here's a thought. Bball fans in Seattle are looking at the AD trade as a way to get a team. NO has never really been a bball town or area. If Davis is gone and Holiday tries to force a trade, the Pels may not draw flies in the stands or for local TV/radio revenues.

It may be a perfect storm for the NBA to return to Seattle.
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Was thinking about that today, that New Orleans professional basketball has been a complete non-event in both mascot iterations. Even with AD they were barely on the radar; now even less so.
 
You might almost feel bad for them if the league hadn't rigged the lottery so they could get Davis in the first place
 
CDeacMan said:
You might almost feel bad for them if the league hadn't rigged the lottery so they could get Davis in the first place
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I think the Hornets have actually won more games than the PCans since they ended up with an oft injured MKG instead of AD. That’s pretty shitty management of getting the chance to draft a HOF player.
 
Porzingus is on the trading block.
 
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