Remember, I'm the guy who says the least important stat for a college recruited PG is TOs. Of course, Young is going to make a lot of TOs due to usage, but he makes a lot of bad ones. Usage also means he gets more assists than a lot of others.
With a knockdown shooter like Huerter, a good shooter like Hunter and two lob targets in JC and Capela, a good PG would be Top 5 in assists.
As to his shooting, last year he was a bad shooter. This year he's marginally above what you need a volume three point shooter to be. He could improve by not taking so many bad shots, but it may be baked into his play to believe he should take those shots.
Hunter and Capela deserve raises to have to cover Young's man as well as their own.
Maybe the Hawks will find a coach to make him play some D and maybe he'll stop forcing bad shots, but right now he's a ball hog on a bad team. Let's see how he plays if his team becomes competitive.
BTW, Luka has propelled the Mavs to a .600 winning percentage while missing Kristaps for 20% of their games and playing in the West versus the Hawks having about the worst record in the league.
Not really sure where to start I disagree with so much, but I'll respond to this one then I'm probably done discussing Trae with you.
You say that a good PG would be top 5 in assists with a roster like the Hawks. For starters, JC has missed just under half of the Hawks games, and Capela has played in precisely 0. Hunter is shooting 35.3% from 3 with 12.3 ppg. That % is only marginally above what Trae's rookie 3pt % was, but I guess we get to call rookie Hunter a good shooter and rookie Trae a shitty one. Huerter is shooting 39.1% from 3. So I guess the 1.7% between him and Trae this year is the difference between a knockdown shooter and someone "marginally above what a volume 3 point shooter should be"?
Regardless of shooting, if you're arguing that any good PG would be getting a lot of assists due to the quality of the Hawks roster, I'd invite you to seriously rethink that. This is a team in which Damien Jones and Alex Len have gotten the majority of the minutes at center and Vince Carter plays 15.1 mpg. You yourself call Trae a "ballhog on a bad team", so if you could try to reconcile that "bad team" statement with your second bullet point I'd love to see it.
You're the one that mentioned his turnovers in a post to knock him two posts ago, and I pointed out how his usage has impacted that. As for your thing on usage impacting assists, yeah sure. But he's 5th in the league in Assists/48 minutes, so to discredit his assists numbers solely based on that seems silly. He's an elite passer, and I think you know that.
I watch around 1/2 of the hawks games, and I'd be willing to bet unless they are playing the Sixers you watch 0 aside from highlights. So please stop coming after this with the eye test about his defense. I've already conceded that he's a terrible defender. But the advanced stats that make him out to be the worst in the league inherently factor in the bad defense that the rest of the team plays. The only above average defender on the team has been Reddish, Hunter's D has absolutely not translated yet and Capela hasn't played yet. Trae's D will be possible to hide once the Hawks team D improves.
As an aside, the same advanced stat that has Trae Young's D as the worst in the league has his offense as the best in the league. His DRPM is -4.66, second worst is IT at -4.27. His ORPM is 6.50 and second best is Dame at 5.44. If you're gonna keep bashing him as a player as the worst defender in the NBA, why don't you start fairly applying these stats and start referring to him as the best offensive player in the NBA? Or, maybe accept that these stats should have some context when you talk about his D, your choice.
Finally, I don't give a shit about Luka. Your point is disingenuous anyways, as almost anyone would admit the Hawks roster is significantly worse than the Mavs aside from the PG's, but whatever. The trade was for Trae + Reddish, and Reddish has quietly played great ball in 2020. I'm tired of the Luka-Trae comparisons, they are wildly different players only compared because of draft night. I'm making the argument that Trae is a very good player, and if you need to bring Luka into your rebuttal of that you are already losing.
