Ongoing Dem Debacle Thread: Commander will kill us all
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WFcatamount22
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Boomers created real social changes that had lasting impact.
Millennial's think Tropic Thunder is a racist movie.
Millennial's think Tropic Thunder is a racist movie.
myDeaconmyhand
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I don't know why this is so hard to understand for some. Rape allegations should be taken seriously, all the time. That doesn't mean you have to believe them outright, but you should damn sure respect the prospect of their legitimacy, instead this conspiratorial bullshit about women lying about rape to take down powerful men. You'd think by the millionth example we'd finally fucking realize, as a species, that men raping women is a lot more common than women lying about being raped.
This is a bit frustrating. I don't think anyone here but the Reff has said they think Biden is a rapist. There is really not enough information out there yet to form a solid opinion on whether Biden did this or not. The current argument is that the reasons for dismissing Reade's allegations (because her credibility is questionable because of her inconsistent actions) without further consideration are invalid because of what we know about sexual assault victim psychology. Please come up with a better reason for dismissing her allegations that don't contradict current psychological research and understanding and you'll win people over.
Strickland33
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Like inheriting the world's most expansive welfare state that resulted in world-historical levels of social mobility, benefiting from it, and then using their political power to systematically dismantle it?
Like experiencing a repressive police state in response to their activism and then instituting an even more repressive police state whenever youth movements like Occupy, Black Lives Matter, #MeToo, and the upstart labor movement publicly organize?
I could go on, but I'll leave it there. There's work to be done and it's not going to get done on this message board.
TownieDeac
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There's a bumper sticker that was popular when I was in high school that said "think globally, act locally"
It's good to be idealistic about politics, even national politics, but pragmatic about where you put your organizing efforts
I think that's generally what I see from the young left
WFcatamount22
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I agree with you about the police state authoritarianism.
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-1 Boomers.
Strickland33
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I don't know why Ph, of all posters, is taking this line because I know that he doesn't truly believe it.
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thank you.
myDeaconmyhand
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She got her ass kicked. Sorry that adjunct professors and whole foods shoppers don't carry the vote. She couldn't sniff a minority vote if it was under her fucking nose - not a credible candidate.
Strickland33
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There's also not much that young people can do to impact national-level politics considering the fact that veteran politicians (most of whom are boomers, not coincidentally) hold all levers of institutional power and have proven to prefer political opportunity hoarding to passing the torch. Hell, look at how much support there is for the millennial politicians in Congress right now.
I don't see any of that from the young left here.
Hell, they won't even listen to avoid the same mistakes we and others have made. This creates tons of wasted effort and more importantly, creates more frustration and hopelessness.
Along that line, I remember Arnie saying the stupidest thing golfers do is hit off the tee box rather than using a tee on a Par 3. He said if they him tee it up in a sand trap or have any other advantage, he'd do it in a second.
The young left refuses taking any advantages. In fact it's worse than dismissive, they are openly and proudly antagonistic towards people who have done what they are doing and want to help. They are playing right into the hands of the right.
Hell, they won't even listen to avoid the same mistakes we and others have made. This creates tons of wasted effort and more importantly, creates more frustration and hopelessness.
Along that line, I remember Arnie saying the stupidest thing golfers do is hit off the tee box rather than using a tee on a Par 3. He said if they him tee it up in a sand trap or have any other advantage, he'd do it in a second.
The young left refuses taking any advantages. In fact it's worse than dismissive, they are openly and proudly antagonistic towards people who have done what they are doing and want to help. They are playing right into the hands of the right.
Strickland33
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You don't see anything from the young left on here because you don't know any of us in real life and we don't relentlessly brag about our IRL accomplishments like you do, ya donk. This is an internet message board, RJ. It's not real life.
Neither could Bernie. He had a remarkable ground crew. He had four years. He had over a hundred million dollars. He had true believers, but he couldn't beat a guy who is old and has no ground game.
" I've known Bob Rumson for years, and I've been operating under the assumption that the reason Bob devotes so much time and energy to shouting at the rain was that he simply didn't get it. Well, I was wrong. Bob's problem isn't that he doesn't get it. Bob's problem is that he can't sell it! "
Bernie can't sell it.
WFcatamount22
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You had a perfect openly gay millennial candidate running to be the POTUS, but leftists refused to vote for him because he worked in the private sector one time after serving his country in combat.
Now we have to justify why Biden finger raping a staffer isn't that bad.
Thanks millennial's.
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The biggest headwind the young (let's call it under 40) left faces is its own cohort's apathy. Millennials don't vote as well as other cohorts, whether because they're jaded and don't care or because they're less well off than previous generations (first generation in American history) or too self-involved, whatever the cause, that's the biggest headwind.
Second biggest is Boomer/Xers who have finally earned their seats at the table reluctant to give it up to either idealists or those unwilling to work within the system they've designed.
That's a fatal combination for getting anything done.
Second biggest is Boomer/Xers who have finally earned their seats at the table reluctant to give it up to either idealists or those unwilling to work within the system they've designed.
That's a fatal combination for getting anything done.
WFcatamount22
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I disagree, his team did a pretty good job of turning an old angry nationalist/socialist into what could be seen as a likable guy.
Pretty impressive.
WFcatamount22
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The entire ethos of Millennial culture is self inflating ego building.
The point is not to be good, but look good.
myDeaconmyhand
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you're right. Bernie lost. Twice. He still performed worlds better than Warren did, or could. All the high minded newspaper opinion pieces in the world can't float a compromise candidacy. People want what they want and they don't settle, no matter how condescendingly they are told they should.