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Ongoing gun violence/injury thread

RJ has something in common with Jesse Helms. He's all for the elected representatives of the people reflecting the polls when said polls are in his favor. If something is a bad idea, I really don't give a damn how many people are for it.

So allowing anyone to buy a hundred guns in VA, drive to NY or Chicago and sell them to gangbangers is OK with you since they would be "private sales".

No sense doing background checks or prosecuting the people for arming criminals.

The NRA wants to protect the straw purchasers that lead the deaths of so many innocent Americans as long as the gun manufacturers can make their profit.
 
Interesting article from a month ago on gun deaths as a result of homicide and suicide, broken down by race.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/gun-deaths/

America’s pattern of gun deaths is split across black and white, with the vast majority of whites dying from suicide and a similar proportion of blacks dying from homicide. A similar split occurs with more homicide in diverse urban cities and more suicide in the rural areas that are predominantly white.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/03/22/gun-deaths-shaped-by-race-in-america/

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Why have any laws if criminals are going to break them anyway?

Yep, we should use the elkman/NRA logic to eliminate the laws against bank robbery and murder since criminals are going to keep robbing banks and killing people anyway.
 
Concerning the new bipartisan background check bill, Alan Gottlieb, chair of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, says, "There's a Million other things in there it's a Christmas Tree. We just hung a Million Ornaments on it. We're taking the Background Check and making it a pro-gun bill...."

 
So allowing anyone to buy a hundred guns in VA, drive to NY or Chicago and sell them to gangbangers is OK with you since they would be "private sales".

No sense doing background checks or prosecuting the people for arming criminals.

The NRA wants to protect the straw purchasers that lead the deaths of so many innocent Americans as long as the gun manufacturers can make their profit.

I love your posts that are so full of shit they are not even funny. Keep it up.
 
So allowing anyone to buy a hundred guns in VA, drive to NY or Chicago and sell them to gangbangers is OK with you since they would be "private sales".

No sense doing background checks or prosecuting the people for arming criminals.

The NRA wants to protect the straw purchasers that lead the deaths of so many innocent Americans as long as the gun manufacturers can make their profit.


This has to be one of your dumbest posts...
 
To you and other gun extremists, telling the truth is dumb.

The NRA IS protecting the straw purchases and buyers. It's in their interest to do so. It puts millions into the bloody pockets of its masters in the gun industry.

If you actually think the NRA is much more than a gun industry lobby, you are deluding yourself.
 
To you and other gun extremists, telling the truth is dumb.

The NRA IS protecting the straw purchases and buyers. It's in their interest to do so. It puts millions into the bloody pockets of its masters in the gun industry.

If you actually think the NRA is much more than a gun industry lobby, you are deluding yourself.

The NRAs not out there shooting anybody their just trying to protect peoples freedom to bear arms.
 
To you and other gun extremists, telling the truth is dumb.

The NRA IS protecting the straw purchases and buyers. It's in their interest to do so. It puts millions into the bloody pockets of its masters in the gun industry.

If you actually think the NRA is much more than a gun industry lobby, you are deluding yourself.


Good grief, you are dumb.
 
Concerning the new bipartisan background check bill, Alan Gottlieb, chair of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, says, "There's a Million other things in there it's a Christmas Tree. We just hung a Million Ornaments on it. We're taking the Background Check and making it a pro-gun bill...."




You are saying Gottlieb has no idea what he is talking about?
 
You have to be one of the stupidest people on this board that can actually read. Keep it up bro...

Personal insults show you have lost.

Keep your head buried in the sand:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-...ry-to-become-their-top-crisis-pr-firm-2012-12

"In its early days, the National Rifle Association was a grassroots social club that prided itself on independence from corporate influence.
While that is still part of the organization's core function, today less than half of the NRA's revenues come from program fees and membership dues.
The bulk of the group's money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.
Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.
The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.
Additionally, some companies donate portions of sales directly to the NRA. Crimson Trace, which makes laser sights, donates 10 percent of each sale to the NRA. Taurus buys an NRA membership for everyone who buys one of their guns. Sturm Rugar gives $1 to the NRA for each gun sold, which amounts to millions. The NRA's revenues are intrinsically linked to the success of the gun business.
The NRA Foundation also collects hundreds of thousands of dollars from the industry, which it then gives to local-level organizations for training and equipment purchases.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/171776/does-nra-represent-gun-manufacturers-or-gun-owners

"The National Rifle Association portrays itself as an organization that represents “4 million members” who simply love the Second Amendment. The truth is much more murky.

In reality, the NRA is composed of half a dozen legal entities; some designed to run undisclosed attack ads in political campaigns, others to lobby and collect tens of millions in undisclosed, tax-deductible sums. This power has only been enhanced in the era of Citizens United, with large GOP donors in the last election reportedly funneling money to the NRA simply to use the group as a brand to pummel Democrats with nasty ads. (As The Huffington Post’s Peter Stone reported, even the Koch network now provides an undisclosed amount to the NRA.)

Despite the grassroots façade, there is much evidence to suggest that corporations that profit from unregulated gun use are propping up the NRA’s activities, much like how the tobacco lobby secretly funded “Smokers Rights’” fronts and libertarian anti-tax groups, or how polluters currently finance much of the climate change skepticism movement.

In a “special thanks” to their donors, the National Rifle Association Foundation lists Bushmaster Firearms Inc., the company that makes the assault rifle reportedly found with the shooter responsible for the mass murder today in Newtown, Connecticut. How much Bushmaster Firearms Inc. (a firm now known as Windham) contributes is left unsaid.

The Violence Policy Center has estimated that since 2005, gun manufacturers have contributed up to $38.9 million to the NRA. Those numbers, however, are based on publicly listed “sponsorship” levels on NRA fundraising pamphlets. The real figures could be much bigger. Like Crossroads GPS or Americans for Prosperity, or the Sierra Club for that matter, the NRA does not disclose any donor information even though it spends millions on federal elections."

There are hundreds of other such well documented articles which show my point to be realistic and you to be a lemming who m the NRA has on a brainwashed string.
 
The Violence Policy Center? Really? But the money from George Soros and the Joyce Foundation is nothing? You have to do better than that...
 
In a “special thanks” to their donors, the National Rifle Association Foundation lists Bushmaster Firearms Inc., the company that makes the assault rifle reportedly found with the shooter responsible for the mass murder today in Newtown, Connecticut.


And are we going to have to go down the road the article went with when it used the phrase "assault rifle"? Really?
 
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