• Welcome to OGBoards 10.0, keep in mind that we will be making LOTS of changes to smooth out the experience here and make it as close as possible functionally to the old software, but feel free to drop suggestions or requests in the Tech Support subforum!

Parody Joe Biden site getting more traffic than official campaign site

The GOP has turned into the boy who cried socialism


...Despite what you may have heard from Team Trump — and despite the many TV interviewers asking Democratic politicians whether they’re “capitalist” or “socialist,” as if that’s a meaningful binary — all modern countries have elements of capitalism and socialism.

That includes the United States. We have public schools, public roads, subsidized health care for the elderly and other forms of social insurance. Yet we also have private property, and the government does not control the means of production — which is, you know, actually how socialism is defined.

Trump and his advisers pretend otherwise, in the hopes of confusing and freaking out the public. After all, most people know they’re supposed to be afraid of “socialism,” even if they have no idea what the term means.

In fact, in a Gallup poll last year that asked Americans to explain their understanding of the term “socialism,” responses were all over the map. The most common answer, volunteered by about a quarter of respondents, was that it had something to do with “equality” — “equal standing for everybody, all equal in rights, equal in distribution,” something to that effect. Smaller percentages mentioned communism, government control of utilities or even “talking to people, being social, social media, getting along with people.”

Given this level of confusion, it’s not clear that Trump’s strategy to smear the Democratic Party as a Socialist Menace will be terribly effective.

Sure, maybe it’ll mobilize older people who lived through the Cold War and associate socialism with the evil Soviet Union. But Trump probably already had the old people vote locked up.

Whether it will scare younger people is a separate question. A majority of adults under age 30 already view the term “socialism” positively; about 40 percent of those ages 30 to 49 say the same.

That might be because of dissatisfaction with the results of the existing (predominantly capitalist) economic system. But it might perversely also be because Republicans have been so relentless in their alarmist attacks on socialism — or, rather, “socialism.”

Over the past 60 years — since Ronald Reagan warned that Medicare would doom the country to the s-word — the GOP has turned into the boy who cried socialism. If you persist in describing popular and not-all-that-radical policies as “socialist” (protections for preexisting conditions or letting kids stay on their parents’ health insurance until age 26), at some point the term starts to lose its negative valence.
Click to expand...
 
I hate shitty, shallow arguments based on propaganda - does that count?
 
Surely you can find a specific example. You seemed so confident earlier!
 
I hate trump supporters, not the ones that were like ok i guess I’ll vote for him, or im republican that’s our nominee I’ll vote for him, the ones that go to the rallies and chant, and buy the grifter merchandise. I have zero sympathy and think the country and more so the plant would be a better place if they ceased to exist. I don’t care about their back story or how this or that failed them, don’t translate your own failings towards blaming immigrants, non-whites, and woman.
 
Sailor is confusing people’s concern for his health and well being for hatred, just another example to justify our concerns.
 
BarcaDeac said:
I'm legitimately asking you to cite some examples, as I have not seen the hate you allege is commonplace from the left on here.
Click to expand...

if you can't find any examples on your own, you are not sufficiently conversant in the subject to be included in any relevant conversation; you are like the student who shows up for a seminar without having read the assigned readings and then wants their opinions on them taken seriously
 
sailordeac said:
some do, but the entire left is based on hate
Click to expand...

This was the original post for which you failed to provide a single example.

So this has now pivoted into “people make fun of me here”
 
sailordeac said:
if you can't find any examples on your own, you are not sufficiently conversant in the subject to be included in any relevant conversation; you are like the student who shows up for a seminar without having read the assigned readings and then wants their opinions on them taken seriously
Click to expand...

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family in these trying times, comrade.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
I hate trump supporters, not the ones that were like ok i guess I’ll vote for him, or im republican that’s our nominee I’ll vote for him, the ones that go to the rallies and chant, and buy the grifter merchandise. I have zero sympathy and think the country and more so the plant would be a better place if they ceased to exist. I don’t care about their back story or how this or that failed them, don’t translate your own failings towards blaming immigrants, non-whites, and woman.
Click to expand...

at least you are admitting your hate

in the larger sense, however, why hate people with whom you disagree politically, why not just consider them mistaken, as I consider you mistaken

in socialist countries you are first indoctrinated to hate the people who disagree with you, then later you can shoot them or send them to labor camps and work them to death
 
sailordeac said:
if you can't find any examples on your own, you are not sufficiently conversant in the subject to be included in any relevant conversation; you are like the student who shows up for a seminar without having read the assigned readings and then wants their opinions on them taken seriously
Click to expand...

People have different definitions of hate. I am asking if you could provide an example (just one!) of what you perceive to be hatred by posters from the left. I have not seen any, therefore would like clarification. Teach a lube to fish, eh?
 
right now I am going sailing, have fun looking for examples of hatred by the left directed at those they disagree with, an easy assignment to say the least
 
06deacon said:
This was the original post for which you failed to provide a single example.

So this has now pivoted into “people make fun of me here”
Click to expand...

Yep. There's a big difference between saying "I want you to die/be destroyed, etc." and making fun of someone's bad arguments, or pointing out the flaws in someone's arguments in a sharp manner. That's not hatred. It may be ridicule, but that's a different topic entirely. And, from what I've seen of the posts of most conservatives on here, they give as good as they get when it comes to ridicule, personal attacks, snarky drive-by posts and all the rest. They're not victims of anything.
 
It’s genuinely fucking scary that sailor teaches kids.
 
sailor is that kid in class who is very opinionated about the reading but can’t find a single passage to support his points.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top