ONW
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Responses from Carly, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, and Palin will be epic.
Their responses or lack of with not include apologies.
Responses from Carly, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, and Palin will be epic.
I think most pro-life can accept a group lying about who they are in an attempt to expose PP's pretty heinous practices of killing human life and making a profit off the parts. Most would view it as a lie in the same way that a Christian missionary who lives under false pretenses in a foreign country in order to spread the Gospel would be technically lying to the government of the country they are living in. So it sounds nice to rag on the guys for misrepresenting themselves, but in a similar situation I don't think any of you would bat an eye if someone was exposing something you felt was an atrocity against mankind and had to misrepresent themselves in order to accomplish their task.
I understand why the video creators are being prosecuted, but it is circuitous logic IMO. The video creators weren't attempting to purchase human organs. Because, if they were purchasing human organs then what exactly did PP kill? A human? If the proceeds of abortion produces human body parts, then it would seem fairly easy to reason that the being that destroyed was a human. We have gone around and around on this, so I am going to bow out, but I am not surprised with the charges, nor the fact that even the interpretation of the charges still falls along the same lines on whether you see the child in the womb as a human or as a mass of cells that also happens to have all the same organs that humans do (coincidence I guess).
ONW - I wouldnt apologize either. The video creators shined a new light on the hypocrisy of abortion. I think they are to be commended.
Good to see TAB in there fighting the condescension fight though. Bravo sir.
recovering costs is not the same as making profits
I think most pro-life can accept a group lying about who they are in an attempt to expose PP's pretty heinous practices of killing human life and making a profit off the parts. Most would view it as a lie in the same way that a Christian missionary who lives under false pretenses in a foreign country in order to spread the Gospel would be technically lying to the government of the country they are living in. So it sounds nice to rag on the guys for misrepresenting themselves, but in a similar situation I don't think any of you would bat an eye if someone was exposing something you felt was an atrocity against mankind and had to misrepresent themselves in order to accomplish their task.
I understand why the video creators are being prosecuted, but it is circuitous logic IMO. The video creators weren't attempting to purchase human organs. Because, if they were purchasing human organs then what exactly did PP kill? A human? If the proceeds of abortion produces human body parts, then it would seem fairly easy to reason that the being that destroyed was a human. We have gone around and around on this, so I am going to bow out, but I am not surprised with the charges, nor the fact that even the interpretation of the charges still falls along the same lines on whether you see the child in the womb as a human or as a mass of cells that also happens to have all the same organs that humans do (coincidence I guess).
ONW - I wouldnt apologize either. The video creators shined a new light on the hypocrisy of abortion. I think they are to be commended.
Good to see TAB in there fighting the condescension fight though. Bravo sir.
What hypocrisy? When has someone ever denied that a fetus wasn't human? Your fingernail is human.I think most pro-life can accept a group lying about who they are in an attempt to expose PP's pretty heinous practices of killing human life and making a profit off the parts. Most would view it as a lie in the same way that a Christian missionary who lives under false pretenses in a foreign country in order to spread the Gospel would be technically lying to the government of the country they are living in. So it sounds nice to rag on the guys for misrepresenting themselves, but in a similar situation I don't think any of you would bat an eye if someone was exposing something you felt was an atrocity against mankind and had to misrepresent themselves in order to accomplish their task.
I understand why the video creators are being prosecuted, but it is circuitous logic IMO. The video creators weren't attempting to purchase human organs. Because, if they were purchasing human organs then what exactly did PP kill? A human? If the proceeds of abortion produces human body parts, then it would seem fairly easy to reason that the being that destroyed was a human. We have gone around and around on this, so I am going to bow out, but I am not surprised with the charges, nor the fact that even the interpretation of the charges still falls along the same lines on whether you see the child in the womb as a human or as a mass of cells that also happens to have all the same organs that humans do (coincidence I guess).
ONW - I wouldnt apologize either. The video creators shined a new light on the hypocrisy of abortion. I think they are to be commended.
Good to see TAB in there fighting the condescension fight though. Bravo sir.
Wrangor can accept continuing to lie about that for the right cause.
I said this last year and people on this board acted like I was crazy. If abortion was murder, then women who have abortions would be treated like murderers - child murderers.I do agree with the tenor of Wrangor's post FWIW. My belief is that pro-lifers aren't going as far as their proclaimed ideologies take them. If you truly believe that abortion is murder I think the response would be a far greater outcry than we actually have. These sting operatives at least tried to put their money where their mouth was, they just happened to likely commit a felony while doing it and are going to have to do the time.
I said this last year and people on this board acted like I was crazy. If abortion was murder, then women who have abortions would be treated like murderers - child murderers.