So only athletes who have been in that exact situation can have an opinion? That's dumb. It's not THAT different from everything else
Well any other opinion is pretty uniformed by actual experience, so it should be judged accordingly.
I imagine many here have actual experience playing in an important game in which one team beat the hell out of the other and either let off the gas and/or didn't celebrate like banshees or the opposite. That experience is relevant to this discussion.
2-2 and Panama would've been out. The equalizer moments before was what changed things.
To no one's surprise Mexico didn't help us out when the shoe was on the other foot. Fuck Zusi for crossing for the equalizer
Fair to say that no one here has ever participated in the pinnacle event of the profession that they've dedicated their entire life to, so any opinion on what "should be done" is pretty meaningless.
2-2 and Panama would've been out. The equalizer moments before was what changed things.
To no one's surprise Mexico didn't help us out when the shoe was on the other foot. Fuck Zusi for crossing for the equalizer
You're right. But Panama was playing forward inexplicably up 2-1. That was the eternal fuck up. Panama was coached by twin dudes, if I recall, which was weird. I noticed that when they made their first cup, the twins were gone ...
Didn't Zusi score it on a header where he had a 36 in vertical? I don't think Mexico calls him San Zusi just for crossing it
That's right, my b, makes more sense and why I remember him as well. Brad Davis with the cross
All of the counter arguments to what I'm saying stem from the belief that what others think and feel about you should determine how you act. That is certainly true when it involves following the rules of the game, or the law of a country, or anything you might do to intentionally harm someone else. That doesn't apply here at all. The idea that it's ok to score as much as you can but not to celebrate being "respectful" to the opponent is simply balderdash. The idea that it's ok to celebrate a goal if it's your first world cup goal, but not after is lame. The idea that what the USWNT does on the pitch to be "respectful " to opponents will determine how the opponent acts toward the USWNT is simply naive. If the USWNT had behaved in a way that was truly disrespectful ( ie demonstrating at the opponent on the pitch, confronting or taunting them, or disparaging them verbally before during or after the match) that would have been awful, unsporting and worthy of all criticism. But that's not what happened. I understand the point of view that most of you younger than me comes from. You're entitled to your opinion just like I am, and there's a massive shift worldwide toward social awareness and compassion toward "victims", underprivileged or less accomplished for lack of a better description. Those types of challenges are part of real life. If you have compassion for those folks that's great. But no blame should necessarily fixed on others in a situation like the World Cup tournament. The USWNT has no ability or responsibility to enhance the competitiveness of an opponent. Our opponents hopefully have the same mission our team has. Play your best, advance, win the trophy if you can, and appreciate the experience no matter what. If anything, the USWNT program has done more to advance Women's soccer worldwide than any other effort. If you're going to convince me to agree, you need a better example than this. If the USWNT doesn't cheat, plays honestly and fairly on the pitch, and accepts penalties and misfortune with resolve, they have nothing to apologize for. Nothing.
All of the counter arguments to what I'm saying stem from the belief that what others think and feel about you should determine how you act. That is certainly true when it involves following the rules of the game, or the law of a country, or anything you might do to intentionally harm someone else. That doesn't apply here at all. The idea that it's ok to score as much as you can but not to celebrate being "respectful" to the opponent is simply balderdash. The idea that it's ok to celebrate a goal if it's your first world cup goal, but not after is lame. The idea that what the USWNT does on the pitch to be "respectful " to opponents will determine how the opponent acts toward the USWNT is simply naive. If the USWNT had behaved in a way that was truly disrespectful ( ie demonstrating at the opponent on the pitch, confronting or taunting them, or disparaging them verbally before during or after the match) that would have been awful, unsporting and worthy of all criticism. But that's not what happened. I understand the point of view that most of you younger than me comes from. You're entitled to your opinion just like I am, and there's a massive shift worldwide toward social awareness and compassion toward "victims", underprivileged or less accomplished for lack of a better description. Those types of challenges are part of real life. If you have compassion for those folks that's great. But no blame should necessarily fixed on others in a situation like the World Cup tournament. The USWNT has no ability or responsibility to enhance the competitiveness of an opponent. Our opponents hopefully have the same mission our team has. Play your best, advance, win the trophy if you can, and appreciate the experience no matter what. If anything, the USWNT program has done more to advance Women's soccer worldwide than any other effort. If you're going to convince me to agree, you need a better example than this. If the USWNT doesn't cheat, plays honestly and fairly on the pitch, and accepts penalties and misfortune with resolve, they have nothing to apologize for. Nothing.
But will the PC media do anything about it?
NAH