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Saudi World Golf Tour 2022/2023 Thread

Buttermaker said:
Why would they have been terrible fits?
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all signs point to the U.S. setting up the course super long so distance is king.

Driving Average
Na: 288.5
Kisner: 289.1

Na has actually played pretty solid the last months based on reporting from those more in the know. Kisner won in Greensboro due to a fluky missed putt by Adam Scott and then finished +8 at the Northern Trust (MC, 5th from last), winners were -20, and -1 at the BMW (tied for last), winners were -27
 
FWIW, East Lake was supposed to favor long hitters and Na beat everyone, but Rahm.

Here are Na's last 6 results of the PGA season:

2nd
23rd
2nd (lost in the Wyndham playoff)
8th (Northern Trust Fed Ex Playoff)
17th (BMW Fed Ex Playoff)
2nd (Tour Championship)

With the exception of Cantlay and Rahm, no one finished the year better.

Kisner's win wasn't fluky. He went head to head with 6 other PGA golfers and played the best in a best ball format. That's as close to Ryder Cup as you get. Kisner also has a great record in PGA/WGC match play events.

Clueless to call either Na or Kisner "terrible fits" for the RC.
 
Pilchard said:
FWIW, East Lake was supposed to favor long hitters and Na beat everyone, but Rahm.

Here are Na's last 6 results of the PGA season:

2nd
23rd
2nd (lost in the Wyndham playoff)
8th (Northern Trust Fed Ex Playoff)
17th (BMW Fed Ex Playoff)
2nd (Tour Championship)

With the exception of Cantlay and Rahm, no one finished the year better.

Kisner's win wasn't fluky. He went head to head with 6 other PGA golfers and played the best in a best ball format. That's as close to Ryder Cup as you get. Kisner also has a great record in PGA match play events.

Clueless to call either Na or Kisner "terrible fits" for the RC.
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for this Ryder Cup, they are. It's not clueless with how the course will be set up. If this was France in 2018, Na would make total sense. Kisner is quoted himself that he can't compete on the longer courses but "20th place pays good" or however he put it.

Kisner finished dead fucking last in a tournament that the winner was -27. Kisner should not even of been in the consideration for captain's picks.
 
I have to agree with Hawk here. Same reason I think it may have been a mistake for the Euros to go with Poulter over Rose. If this was Paris or Rome, I take Na. And that was part of the problem 3 years ago in Paris. Furyk picked Mickelson, Tiger and DeChambeau on a particularly tight course, and they sucked on that layout.
 
Bryson has been training in Newton Grove, NC at Bobby Peterson's One Stop Power Shop to maximize the length of his drives. After the Ryder Cup, Bryson will be competing in Professional Long Drivers Association World Championship in Mesquite, Nevada, on Sept. 28. Bryson's long drive workouts have included two 90 minute "speed workouts" a day. DeChambeau looking to get longer...

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/32212836/bryson-dechambeau-my-hands-wrecked-intense-training-ahead-ryder-cup-world-long-drive-championship
 
Pilchard said:
Bryson has been training in Newton Grove, NC at Bobby Peterson's One Stop Power Shop to maximize the length of his drives. After the Ryder Cup, Bryson will be competing in Professional Long Drivers Association World Championship in Mesquite, Nevada, on Sept. 28. Bryson's long drive workouts have included two 90 minute "speed workouts" a day. DeChambeau looking to get longer...

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/32212836/bryson-dechambeau-my-hands-wrecked-intense-training-ahead-ryder-cup-world-long-drive-championship
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Here's the longer golf.com piece: https://golf.com/gear/drivers/bryson-dechambeau-ryder-cup-long-drive/

Most weeks on Tour, DeChambeau’s prodigious length gives him an advantage over nearly every pro in the field. But as he learned during his time in North Carolina, there’s a sizable gap between “Tour long” and “long drive long.” After eclipsing 211 mph ball speed during a 90-minute session, DeChambeau watched as Reid Russell, a long drive specialist who works in business development for a land surveying company, unleashed a missile that topped 214 mph ball speed — with one swing.
 
Pilchard said:
Bryson has been training in Newton Grove, NC at Bobby Peterson's One Stop Power Shop to maximize the length of his drives. After the Ryder Cup, Bryson will be competing in Professional Long Drivers Association World Championship in Mesquite, Nevada, on Sept. 28. Bryson's long drive workouts have included two 90 minute "speed workouts" a day. DeChambeau looking to get longer...

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/32212836/bryson-dechambeau-my-hands-wrecked-intense-training-ahead-ryder-cup-world-long-drive-championship
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I said it earlier but this is a another reson why I don't see Bryson as having a great career. Dude needs to spend time at Dave Pelz's short game school, not at some driving range trying to get insane club speed and hope he can square the face at impact. And doing it before the Ryder Cup is an interesting move...
 
CHDeac said:
I said it earlier but this is a another reson why I don't see Bryson as having a great career. Dude needs to spend time at Dave Pelz's short game school, not at some driving range trying to get insane club speed and hope he can square the face at impact. And doing it before the Ryder Cup is an interesting move...
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I think he can get away with the rest of his irons being the same length, but he should really go with a more standard length sand and lob wedges. That would solve a lot of his short game issues.
 
cville deac said:
I think he can get away with the rest of his irons being the same length, but he should really go with a more standard length sand and lob wedges. That would solve a lot of his short game issues.
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Totally agree though not sure he has good touch. And the harder he swings, the harder is to develop touch IMHO. Im firmly in the gimmick camp with Bryson. I likely am wrong but I don't see him having much staying power. Plus he's very thin skinned which isnt good for a championship level golfer over the long run.
 
He's been on the tour five years and won eight PGA events plus a major. Definitely a flash in the pan.
 
There are technical golfers and feel players. Bryson's does everything he can to eliminate the variability / touch / feel out of his swings, so almost by default he won't have good feel for short game shots.
 
cville deac said:
I think he can get away with the rest of his irons being the same length, but he should really go with a more standard length sand and lob wedges. That would solve a lot of his short game issues.
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I feel like I would hit my irons better if they were the same length but do agree 9-PW and SW would need to be shorter. But I suck ass so really nothing would probably help my game except playing more frequently.
 
deacfan78 said:
I feel like I would hit my irons better if they were the same length but do agree 9-PW and SW would need to be shorter. But I suck ass so really nothing would probably help my game except playing more frequently.
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Don't worry, I got invited to play as a fill in a 9 hole golf league yesterday evening and I literally played the worst I've played in probably 30 years!
 
Bryson isn't a flash in the pan, obviously, but I'm taking the under on 2.5 majors. Unless he changes his game, I don't think he ever sniffs winning the Open or Masters, so that leaves him with two major tournaments that are more "winnable" for his game. And even in the U.S. Open or PGA he needs the right course to smash it around on. With his pool of winnable majors being so limited I think he gets one more, but 3 is too big of a stretch for me.
 
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