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Scout's Relationship with the Athletic Dept.

I'd guess the people who think Wake is squeaky clean are older alumni or townies who just have no idea what goes on. Maybe not, just my opinion based on very little research. Though it does seem to be older posters on Scout who are the one's with the "Wake is full of angels" viewpoint.
 
tsywake said:
We do, but occasionally you get some bad apples. He'll, even my career at WFU wasn't without controversy, but we are college students. What do they honestly expect?
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Frankly, I don't like Hickman. He is a huge jerk.

Also, an athletic department is not an academic department. Local incest should be encouraged instead of frowned upon. We should hire more alum.
 
I think it's definitely the older alums who take the Wake is full of people who can do no wrong POV. Of course, the older alums are also the ones who like to tell stories about how wild Wake was back in the day and how today's students are super lame in comparison and study so much they bring their homework to games. It's not as if Wake was free of problems before Dino or Skip. That's what makes the culture change line so transparently false. It's obviously being employed by the AD as a CYA and buying more time device.
 
MBDeac08 said:
I'd guess the people who think Wake is squeaky clean are older alumni or townies who just have no idea what goes on. Maybe not, just my opinion based on very little research. Though it does seem to be older posters on Scout who are the one's with the "Wake is full of angels" viewpoint.
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They're also the ones who brag about how much weed they smoked with the basketball players in the 70s and 80s, so I don't know where they're coming from. Any large group of 18-23 year old dudes is going to have some troublemakers.
 
How many different bannings would this thread have led to on Scout? 10? 20? It's like a sports chat thread.

Also, closing in on 4,000 views!
 
Are things "worse" than they used to be? I don't remember that many huge controversies with athletes in the mid 90s. Lots of players smoked weed, one shot out street lights. Braswell banged Rutland's girlfriend or vice versa, but nothing like gang bang rapes or large scale theft (we didn't have ipods or many laptops though).
 
luna, not sure if you're the same poster, but at the time there was a guy who was related to the alleged victim who made similar claims.
 
PhDeac said:
They're also the ones who brag about how much weed they smoked with the basketball players in the 70s and 80s, so I don't know where they're coming from. Any large group of 18-23 year old dudes is going to have some troublemakers.
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Of course they are, part of having fun while you are 18-23 is breaking some rules. Count me in the camp that loves Wake, but realized then and now that there are things that the public will never know about (though I agree we are probably cleaner than a lot of larger schools). Wake is like any business, they are going to go above and beyond to protect their public image.
 
Since this has turned into a sports chat thread...

Here's a story involving me, Facebook, and Ty Walker.

April 2009 - I'm still living in Hawaii, and stumble back to my apartment drunk and furious after the Cleveland State debacle. I post a status update like "WEREZ THE WORSTEST AND DUBEST TEEM EVER DLAJFLKDLJKFJLA," or something to that effect.

Literally five seconds later, guess who Facebook messages me? Ty Walker.

This was like, 10 minutes after the game ended. I have to think he was still in the locker room. He proceeds to try and chew me out for being a bad fan for calling the team "worstest" and "dubest."

I stand my ground and point out that I wasn't blaming him exactly, but that losing to Cleveland State was unacceptable under all circumstances.

It was a legit 10, 15 minute chat. Even in my blind drunk state, I sensed his emotional fragility and felt compelled to e-pat him on the back and such. (Retrospect - tough love would've been better.)

Now obviously, Ty Walker and restraint with social media have never gone hand-in-hand. But seriously - in the aftermath of a loss in the NCAA tourney, what player argues with a drunk fan/buffoon on Facebook? So, so odd.
 
IrishSlim said:
How many different bannings would this thread have led to on Scout? 10? 20? It's like a sports chat thread.

Also, closing in on 4,000 views!
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Hi, Athletic Department people! Sign up and discuss Wake sports! That includes you, Steve!

I appreciate your passion for Wake Forest sports!
 
Ari Stewart
AriStewart20 Ari Stewart
@D_Slaughter5 @R_SPANN @dvision7 well tell his punk ass to watch his mouth

In response to me saying:
dvision7 Paul Kennedy
Ari Stewart suspended for the ACC tournament? That bastard took the easy way out by getting himself into trouble! Other players jealous.


Then I responded:
dvision7
@AriStewart20 Ari, had a busy day so just seeing this. I meant nothing personal towards you. Word choice was poor.
dvision7
@AriStewart20 I apologize if I caused you any offense. I feel for you and the other players, as a long time Wake fan. [Redacted] not answer IMO


Ari never responded to that apology.
 
The growth of this site has to be scaring the shit out of the people over at scout, but they have only themselves to blame. I don't know if the insiders have given us any real information in the past month. The only time they ever post is to tell people to calm down.
 
wakesquirrel said:
The growth of this site has to be scaring the shit out of the people over at scout, but they have only themselves to blame. I don't know if the insiders have given us any real information in the past month. The only time they ever post is to tell people to calm down.
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This.

1) For turning the place into North Korea
2) For using AOL dial-up-era technology
3) For charging for information in an era of Facebook, YouTube, and youPorn

When TW, DV7, and I first started emailing one another about all this, we knew an opportunity for success existed, because of the factors stated above.
 
In addition to the uncensored information, I also like that I can say fuck and it shows up. Its like leaving elementary school and going to middle school, all over again. Fuck yeah.
 
MBDeac08 said:
In addition to the uncensored information, I also like that I can say fuck and it shows up. Its like leaving elementary school and going to middle school, all over again. Fuck yeah.
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Minus the girls growing seven inches over the summer.

[shudder]
 
wakesquirrel said:
The growth of this site has to be scaring the shit out of the people over at scout, but they have only themselves to blame. I don't know if the insiders have given us any real information in the past month. The only time they ever post is to tell people to calm down.
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cagles won't even respond to my PMs anymore.



ETA:
In the interest of full disclosure, I told both cagles and Steve Shutt (Asst Ath Dir.) that I was going to start a new board if they kept suppressing information. They both basically ignored that threat.

This is what they get. No war is won yet, but I hope everyone here continues to post here and continues to decrease their posting on a site that doesn't believe you have the right to know the information about the University you support.

That is what DeaconSports is about. Keeping the casual fan locked out of the inside information.
 
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wakephan09 said:
I mean, I am aware of maybe five or six serious, major athletic department cover-ups that went down while I was a student (one of them already being mentioned on this thread). Some of these were completely disposed of relatively quietly (the football gang-rape case, for example) and others resulted in jailtime and hefty fines.

On the other hand, there were some hilarious ones too. The Chas/Phonz rivalry/fistfight in study hall, the MRSA scare from the flooded locker room that was left un-fixed for three weeks, the janitorial staff catching boys in the girls locker room, the several facebook hazing scandals, the Ben Mauk cheating thing (very LOL), volleyball player peeing in the brand new whirlpool.

The one that really made me mad, however, resulted in the departure of a very talented and potential star football player in 2005. I forget his name, but he was either a cornerback or a wide reciever.

As most of my friends here know, I made a concerted effort never to reveal any insider information whilst I was a student. Some things are better left un-spread.

To put it simply, bad things that occur in the revenue sports are dealt with quietly and swiftly. Sometimes these things are no big deal (like Barclay's smoke-up outside of Groves) and sometimes they are something much more serious. The athletic department spends a whole lot of time and energy babysitting and regulating the basketball and football kids, and little effort paying attention to anybody else. They ignore the non-rev teams as long as they aren't getting in any trouble.

The extreme hate from one AD employee, in particular, against little transgressions in the non-rev sports was surprising and scary. I had friends that were hit with threats of yanked scholarship and being sent down from school for seemingly nothing, while there were rapes being covered up just across campus. Money talks, I guess.
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More, please
 
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