Screamindemon3
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There's no way to know or assume that.
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There's no way to know or assume that.
Concealed or not there is a pretty solid statistical correlation..
Concealed or not there is a pretty solid statistical correlation..
when talking about gun deaths they really should "control" (or at least break out) for suicides
we're still way over (other countries) as far as gun deaths go, but 2/3 of gun death in the country (approx 20,000 out of 30,000 total gun deaths) are suicide and given that the total suicide rate in the US isn't especially high compared to other countries, I would assume that gun availability and suicide rates are largely unrelated.
when talking about gun deaths they really should "control" (or at least break out) for suicides
we're still way over (other countries) as far as gun deaths go, but 2/3 of gun death in the country (approx 20,000 out of 30,000 total gun deaths) are suicide and given that the total suicide rate in the US isn't especially high compared to other countries, I would assume that gun availability and suicide rates are largely unrelated.
I think that's a given that the suicide rate would decrease if there wasn't a gun in the house. I am suspecting that gun suicides are also higher when either alcohol or other meds are involved. In the end, none of those things are going away including guns.
When CHL laws first were passed on a widespread basis in the late 90s, gun grabbers screamed that it would lead to the Wild West. That never happened and there was even some evidence that it reduced violent crime. Faced with this, the gun grabbers lowered the bar ("there's no evidence that it has lowered crime!") or changed the conversation (general gun violence compared with other countries or suicides via guns). This thread is a pretty good representation of that.
That's the point. If you don't know they have a gun, but you know that they could have a gun because the law allows them to, then you are less likely to attack them. If you know they in all likelihood do not have a gun because having one would be illegal and your victim appers in all respects to be a law-abiding citizen, then you as the criminal approach them with minimal fear.