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Scott "Rufio" Feather
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I'm not saying we act immorally all the time, but to say there's a presumption is wrong. We act immorally when it appears that such measures are required. There are people alive today that were in Japanese internment camps. I think there are still some holocaust survivors. I know you probably don't want to go there, but you need to. The Civil Rights Act happened, but I think Louis CK had the joke about how we were 2 80-year-olds away from slavery. Humans are not born with a moral compass that makes us not exploit other humans, think about the industrializing nations of the world. Or, look at Xerxes and Darius, or other Persian leaders if you need more proof. They're not growing John Brown's these days in a test tube.
One of few cases where I'll say we're never getting to that presumption in the next 50 years.
Yeah I was saying "we" in reference to the U.S. in the modern day, but you might be right that the presumption is too strong. That would actually make my point our interests are the only thing motivating us stronger though