PhDeac
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OK. Yet again. This time from a different source than the one posted a page or so back. Here are counties that flipped from Obama to Trump and from Romney to Clinton. This does not take into account the massive number of counties that did not flip but where Clinton's percentage take dropped from the take Obama took. And if you wish to continue to argue that Clinton voters stayed home, you should be asking yourself "why"?
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/15/50203...d-for-obama-and-trump-heres-where-in-3-charts
He did.
If you're right, then surely you have data.
Republican voting patterns stayed more or less the same from 2012 with white women voting for Trump more and Obama coalition voters voting less overall. You're basing your analysis off of recollection, anecdotes, and speculation. You haven't done the work.
My claim is that in terms of the aggregate counts per state that went blue in 2012 and red in 2016, voter turnout was down significantly amongst Obama coalition voters and in Obama coalition areas, whereas white women (primarily suburban, or as you put it, exurban) voted in larger than anticipated numbers for Trump.
I'm not sure where you're getting numbers like 10-20 percentage point drops or what they refer to, but when we're talking about state aggregate figures, which influence electoral vote allocation, then significant drops in urban area voter turnout absolutely affects national election outcomes. I've posted about this in depth on here prior to your return to the boards. Your move.
You're right and I agree with your last paragraph, though. It's Clinton's and the DNC's fault 100%+ for losing this election. Had you paid attention to the boards during the election you might be able to paint with a less broad brush in describing who folks attribute blame to on the boards.