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The Case For Infanticide

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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/02/the-case-for-infanticide.php

Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.

The article, published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born. …

They argued: “The moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus in the sense that both lack those properties that justify the attribution of a right to life to an individual.” Rather than being “actual persons”, newborns were “potential persons”. They explained: “Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’. …

As such they argued it was “not possible to damage a newborn by preventing her from developing the potentiality to become a person in the morally relevant sense”.

The authors therefore concluded that “what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled”.
 
Sounds very Singer-esque. It should become obvious that there is a flaw in your reasoning when its logical extension has such absurd and morally depraved outcomes.
 
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/02/the-case-for-infanticide.php

Parents should be allowed to have their newborn babies killed because they are “morally irrelevant” and ending their lives is no different to abortion, a group of medical ethicists linked to Oxford University has argued.

The article, published in the Journal of Medical Ethics, says newborn babies are not “actual persons” and do not have a “moral right to life”. The academics also argue that parents should be able to have their baby killed if it turns out to be disabled when it is born. …

They argued: “The moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus in the sense that both lack those properties that justify the attribution of a right to life to an individual.” Rather than being “actual persons”, newborns were “potential persons”. They explained: “Both a fetus and a newborn certainly are human beings and potential persons, but neither is a ‘person’ in the sense of ‘subject of a moral right to life’. …

As such they argued it was “not possible to damage a newborn by preventing her from developing the potentiality to become a person in the morally relevant sense”.
The authors therefore concluded that “what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled”.

Interesting that they chose to use "her" when referencing the newborn.
 
A logical extension of abortion unfortunately. This is why I believe abortion to be on such shaky ethical ground. Viability is a poor argument because newborns are no more viable.

I still believe science will be the undoing of abortion. Or at least that is my hope.
 
Sounds very Singer-esque. It should become obvious that there is something flawed in your reasoning when its logical extension has such absurd and morally depraved outcomes.

I don't think it sounds anything like Peter Singer.

More like Jonathan Swift.
 
No, it's not. It's a foolish leap by simple minded fools.

Simple minded fools like Peter Singer and Michael Tooley? As Tooley aptly pointed out, there is no morally relevant ontological difference between a fetus and an infant. Not in terms of development, viability, or any other criteria that abortion advocates put forward to make the case for killing babies. The fact is, it's not a foolish leap. It's just a leap that is rarely made because of the prevalence of cognitive dissonance on the matter among abortion advocates.
 
This article is just pro-lifers trolling the pro-choice crowd.
 
A newborn can be taken care of by anyone. a fetus can only be taken care of by the mother. If she chooses not to take care of it, she can't give a fetus up for adoption like you can a newborn.
 
A newborn can be taken care of by anyone. a fetus can only be taken care of by the mother. If she chooses not to take care of it, she can't give a fetus up for adoption like you can a newborn.

Ding, ding, ding.
 
A newborn can be taken care of by anyone. a fetus can only be taken care of by the mother. If she chooses not to take care of it, she can't give a fetus up for adoption like you can a newborn.

So, okay with abortion up until the moment of birth?
 
A recent news story said that most people are not intelligent enough to make a democracy/republic work. I direct the authors of that study/survey to the quotes in this story.
 
A newborn can be taken care of by anyone. a fetus can only be taken care of by the mother. If she chooses not to take care of it, she can't give a fetus up for adoption like you can a newborn.

Agreed. To me, viability refers to the capacity to survive without a direct physical connection to another being. That is what distinguishes a fetus from a newborn.
 
Here's the actual medical journal article:

http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/02/22/medethics-2011-100411.full

Honestly, this article turns my stomach

From the Conclusion:

If criteria such as the costs (social, psychological, economic) for the potential parents are good enough reasons for having an abortion even when the fetus is healthy, if the moral status of the newborn is the same as that of the infant and if neither has any moral value by virtue of being a potential person, then the same reasons which justify abortion should also justify the killing of the potential person when it is at the stage of a newborn.
 
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