I don't consider Big E, and Gray bonafide studs I saw them in the season after CP3 left or without Howard but that's neither here nor there. I consider Butler = to Bosie State football playing in the Horizon league take less of a toll on your team then going against ACC or Big East foe's on non neutral sites day in and day out. It's a one in a million chance to find and keep coaches like Brad Stevens, Mark Few and Shaka Smart who win every year without 'burger boys "they all can coach but when coaching is equal talent wins out. With the new ACC adding more basketball powers, without continuous talent coming in expect the Wake Coaster to continue up and down.
I would say that with the exception of K, all three of those guys are better coaches from an X's and O's standpoint than anyone in the current ACC.