I think I am as independent as a voter can possibly be. Both of these candidates are incredibly poor debaters. Hillary's substance is good. If we were simply reading her words on paper, it would sound fantastic. She really struggles to speak, though. Looks way too often at her notes, has far too many awkward pauses and stumbles, and her voice inflections are hard to listen to.
That being said, HOLY SHIT is Donald Trump unbelievable. Cartoon-level bad. I don't think I have ever heard such hyperbole before. And some of the little phrases he says are almost incoherent. His "stream-of-conciousness" way of talking makes my head hurt.