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Wake Bball 2017-18 Schedule

bobknightfan said:
Does the athletic department charge full price for tickets to watch that garbage?

Most of those early home games should be general admission, $3 per ticket.
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Aren't these the level of teams that you keep saying we should play?
 
Learned our lesson from last year I see...

Played one good team too many out of conference and it landed us in Dayton.
 
The best that can be said for this schedule is that will allow the Deacs an opportunity to develop their style of play, gain confidence, momentum and start the year 12-0. Losses could prove costly end of year.
 
If we can go 10-8 in the ACC, we should get a decent seeding.
 
The OOC games that are bad are generally much less than conference games but still more than you would pay Bob
 
bobknightfan said:
Does the athletic department charge full price for tickets to watch that garbage?

Most of those early home games should be general admission, $3 per ticket.
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Looks like a Bobby Knight pre season schedule. Dr.Cupcake.
 
We need some early cupcakes while we're transitioning from a Collins-centric team to more of a shooting/slashing team.
 
wsc8521s said:
Huh? Vandy lost 15 games and was a 9 seed
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Just look at the second tier ACC teams that made the tourney - Non-conference SOS:

FSU: 272
Notre Dame: 270
Miami: 286
VaTech: 341

Vandy as a 9 was a disaster for them really. They definitely should have also played a weaker non-conference schedule. The committee wants 20 wins and a strong finish. The ACC is plenty loaded, no need add multiple ranked teams to the docket unless you're top tier. Vandy and Wake were similarly screwed at 19 wins with extremely strong schedules. Teams were 10+ spots worse on Kenpom with better seeds than both of them. Vandy just got a little less screwed.
 
The committee doesn't go by Kenpom. Wichita was a 10 seed. Not relevant in this discussion.

Non-conference SOS only helped us. If we had played NCA&T instead of Xavier I think we might've missed the tournament. If we wanted to be compared to FSU/ND/Miami/VT we should've won more ACC games, and more marquee games at that. Simple as.

What got Wake into the tourney over Syracuse? Wake was able to overcome a significant disadvantage in marquee wins and indeed a head-to-head loss by playing good teams out-of-conference to boost our metrics and beating decent middling foes (CofC, Richmond, UNCG) OOC on the road. Next year's schedule doesn't really offer us the opportunity to do either
 
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wsc8521s said:
What got Wake into the tourney over Syracuse? Wake was able to overcome a significant disadvantage in marquee wins and indeed a head-to-head loss by playing good teams out-of-conference to boost our metrics and beating decent middling foes (CofC, Richmond, UNCG) OOC on the road. Next year's schedule doesn't really offer us the opportunity to do either
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Cuse got their asses handed to them by awful teams. Their exclusion had nothing to do with Wake.
 
Boeheim made a career out of playing the worst OOC schedule in the country.
 
TheIshThatSaved WakeForest said:
Cuse got their asses handed to them by awful teams. Their exclusion had nothing to do with Wake.
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Of course it did.

We were regarded as one of the last few teams in, and they one of the last few out. I'm gonna guess we were compared at some point (not to mention that we ply our trade in the same conference).

And if not for that strong OOC SOS, we might well have lost that battle
 
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There's already plenty of outcry that overall strength of schedule isn't weighted enough - let alone non-conference strength of schedule by itself. This is an absurd argument for an ACC team. VaTech and their 341st ranked non-conference schedule still netted an overall SOS in the 40's. Hitting 20 wins hugely outweighs the few spots gained in SOS by tacking on a couple tough losses.

Going out and scheduling brutal opponents is for mid-majors and elite teams.
 
Twenty wins is no magic mark. Try telling that to 2015-16 South Carolina who went 23-8, yet were left at home with a #296 (the numbers the NCAA uses, not Kenpom) OOC SOS.

Basically every team that's been a surprise exclusion the last 10 years has been left at home because of a shitty non-conference sched. Happy to go into examples if I must. If Wake had played a similarly bad non-conf schedule last year and won every game, there's no chance we would've danced
 
With that dumpster OOC schedule, the "marquee win" debate is going to rage again unless we grab a few in early ACC play.
 
Definitely. We really need Illinois, Richmond, or Tennessee to be good.

When is the last time we played Army or Navy in hoops? (I remember when we played Air Force. :()
 
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