Were you sober when you got married?

[DistrictDeacon]

Would be a nice point if you weren't wrong. You're making the same mistake as Hollywood - not knowing what you're talking about.

Tv/movie weddings are based on the way things used to be, in a much more misogynistic culture. The Church (as in the suggestion I made) has advocated a newer understanding that jives better with culture and more "liberal" theology. But culture is the one hanging on to older and outdated traditions, not the church.

Nice try though.

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If the culture was really changing, then why do "clergy have to fight Hollywood"? Hollywood is the ultimate expression of current culture.

 

[RevDeac06]

If the culture was really changing, then why do "clergy have to fight Hollywood"? Hollywood is the ultimate expression of current culture.

Does Hollywood do any research to say "is this how weddings are still being done in the church?" No. They simply go with the "standard" tv wedding. Read (most) any NYTimes (or any news outlet) when they have a religion article, then compare it to an actual peer reviewed religious article in a journal. Mainstream doesn't know what they're talking about.

But this is convenient for the naysayers out there. It's really easy to dismiss Christianity/religion when it fits into the little box that you've made for it- outdated, sexist, raping altar boys. And to be fair, there is a large sector of Christianity in the US that fits into that box. The straw men that are formed are often true. But that isn't the sort of Christianity that I believe in or preach, and it certainly isn't the sort of faith espoused by Jesus. Yea, some of us have really screwed it up, but that's an indictment against lazy/stupid/hypocritical people, not Christianity. And (by and large) that isn't the sort of straw man/weak Christianity that you'll find in the Episcopal Church (and some other mainlines, such as Lutheran-ELCA). But as in anything, it's easier to attack without understanding and attack a caricature instead of actually debating the substance of the real deal.

 

[PhilliesDeacs]

Shocker - The Church ruining a pretty fun discussion.

FIFY.

 

[tvcigar]

I was sober, did have one swig from a flask about 2 hours before.

 

[qcdeac]

2 or 3 beers with my groomsmen before the ceremony. Pictures taken right after the ceremony, so we didn't have to show up too early.