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Will the socialistic NFL salary cap keep the Seahawks from being a dynasty?

For the record, I'm against both the salary cap and the draft.
 
deacvision7 said:
For the record, I'm against both the salary cap and the draft.
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I'm anti-draft and pro-cap. I don't think markets should have inherent spending advantages in sports (sports are a distraction from the real world not a reflection) and with a cap and no draft you'd get a better and fairer distribution of talent. Big markets could not horde talent because of the cap and certain markets could overpay for local stars that would be a natural fit to both the player and the organization.
 
RJKarl said:
They are hypocritical, becasue they would never allow anyone to impose earnings on themselves or their other companies.
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Kinda one of the perks of being an owner.
 
I don't understand the argument? If there was no salary cap then the elite players on the seahawks would not be on the seahawks because the seattle market is too small to support insane salaries. Hello Richard Sherman to the Cowboys etc... The elites large market teams would be elite, the rest would get the leftover scraps and a small window to be good through the draft.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I don't understand the argument? If there was no salary cap then the elite players on the seahawks would not be on the seahawks because the seattle market is too small to support insane salaries. Hello Richard Sherman to the Cowboys etc... The elites large market teams would be elite, the rest would get the leftover scraps and a small window to be good through the draft.
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I don't either. I went as far as Googling the Darth Vader "Sense: This picture makes none" but didn't post it.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I don't understand the argument? If there was no salary cap then the elite players on the seahawks would not be on the seahawks because the seattle market is too small to support insane salaries. Hello Richard Sherman to the Cowboys etc... The elites large market teams would be elite, the rest would get the leftover scraps and a small window to be good through the draft.
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This. Case in point, the Seattle Mariners.
 
Drafts are more of the driver of parity in US Sports than the salary cap. Baseball doesn't have have a cap but they generate their parity by having a draft and inhibiting players from getting paid their market value for their first 6-7 major league seasons.

Small market NFL teams could still be competitive without a cap so long as the draft and rookie contracts remained the same (players making near nothing first 4 years).
 
Fuck Your Couch said:
I'm anti-draft and pro-cap. I don't think markets should have inherent spending advantages in sports (sports are a distraction from the real world not a reflection) and with a cap and no draft you'd get a better and fairer distribution of talent. Big markets could not horde talent because of the cap and certain markets could overpay for local stars that would be a natural fit to both the player and the organization.
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READ what I said. I didn't say "No cap" (although the NFL could it).

What I DID say was, the NFL should do a Bird Rule with no tax/fee for going over to keep your own players.
 
wait? who doesn't like the draft? why wouldn't someone like the draft system!?
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I don't understand the argument? If there was no salary cap then the elite players on the seahawks would not be on the seahawks because the seattle market is too small to support insane salaries. Hello Richard Sherman to the Cowboys etc... The elites large market teams would be elite, the rest would get the leftover scraps and a small window to be good through the draft.
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That's why dv7 is anti-cap. #jerrysmoney
 
If there was no salary cap the seahawks would not have players like percy harvin or Lynch. This is the ultimate hypothetical for a team that happened to hit on some 7th round draft choices which doesn't happen often.
 
FckVwls said:
Drafts are more of the driver of parity in US Sports than the salary cap. Baseball doesn't have have a cap but they generate their parity by having a draft and inhibiting players from getting paid their market value for their first 6-7 major league seasons.

Small market NFL teams could still be competitive without a cap so long as the draft and rookie contracts remained the same (players making near nothing first 4 years).
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Is draft position really that important in maintaining parity in MLB? I don't follow it that closely but it seems like the actual position you are in in the MLB draft is the least important in the 4 major sports. Not the draft itself though of course but just the difference between pick 1-30 is the greatest in the NBA and then NFL and then MLB. Of course the rookie scale contracts are huge in every sport in maintaining parity but I feel like a lot of parity is derived from the exploitation of lots of market inefficiencies and anectdotally I feel like the MLB playoffs have the highest variance.

RJKarl said:
READ what I said. I didn't say "No cap" (although the NFL could it).

What I DID say was, the NFL should do a Bird Rule with no tax/fee for going over to keep your own players.
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That's nice but what you quoted of mine wasn't really in reference to your OP.

deacvision7 said:
I think players should be free to go to whatever team they want to go to as professionals.
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I think it would be even more entertaining to have a free agency period than a draft and it wouldn't incentivize losing, especially in the NBA.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I don't understand the argument? If there was no salary cap then the elite players on the seahawks would not be on the seahawks because the seattle market is too small to support insane salaries. Hello Richard Sherman to the Cowboys etc... The elites large market teams would be elite, the rest would get the leftover scraps and a small window to be good through the draft.
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This. Unless you want to turn the NFL into the Harlem Globetrotters vs the rest of us, we need a cap to (sort of) ensure that smaller market teams can compete.

{{{Cue someone to now talk about one example at the end of a very long and well established tail and argue that just because something happens once in a while, it's OK to treat it as the norm because it supports what he/she thinks he/she wants. If you want to watch what the NFL would become without a cap (e.g., something where all that matters is how much money you have), there's always Wall Street, wars, and politics.}}}
 
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