Zeller Tip

[KeEpEr]

I can't believe it, but I am agreeing with Reff (I guess I can since it is between keeper and reff).

Let's put it this way. Regardless of what you and reff think, Wednesday's shot was recorded as a two point made attempt by Kelly.

 

[bojanglefunk]

Let's put it this way. Regardless of what you and reff think, Wednesday's shot was recorded as a two point made attempt by Kelly.

So if we are just going by how they actually scored it, why did you ask the question about how it SHOULD be scored? Facepalm

 

[KeEpEr]

So if we are just going by how they actually scored it, why did you ask the question about how it SHOULD be scored? Facepalm

Because other than the two point part it is subjective.

 

[Palmettodeac]

So if we are just going by how they actually scored it, why did you ask the question about how it SHOULD be scored? Facepalm

And I thought this thread had the potential to be a rational discussion about something I did not know.

<<sigh>>

 

[bojanglefunk]

Let's put it this way. Regardless of what you and reff think, Wednesday's shot was recorded as a two point made attempt by Kelly.

Because other than the two point part it is subjective.

rbitbuddy:

 

[KeEpEr]

And I thought this thread had the potential to be a rational discussion about something I did not know.

<<sigh>>

This is as rational as I can get. I think they scored it correctly and was interested in other opinions. The UNCCH scorer I think did it correctly. The reffs don't care as long as two points are awarded to the offensive team. The scorer could give the basket to the janitor for all they cared.

 

[bojanglefunk]

I get all of that. What you can't do in an argument, however, is ask for opinions about whether something is right or wrong (something you admit is subjective) and at the end say "well you are wrong because the scorekeeper did it differently." That isn't logical.

 

[DCDeac]

So any tipped 3-point attempt, even if it's tipped by a defender behind the 3-point line, should only count as a two if it somehow goes in?

Yes if touched legally.

3 pointers are tipped all the time and are never counted as 2's.

 

[KeEpEr]

I get all of that. What you can't do in an argument, however, is ask for opinions about whether something is right or wrong (something you admit is subjective) and at the end say "well you are wrong because the scorekeeper did it differently." That isn't logical.

I'm having a difficult time remembering saying "you are wrong."

 

[KeEpEr]

So any tipped 3-point attempt, even if it's tipped by a defender behind the 3-point line, should only count as a two if it somehow goes in?

I stand corrected. This would be three points.

 

[bojanglefunk]

Let's put it this way. Regardless of what you and reff think, Wednesday's shot was recorded as a two point made attempt by Kelly.

So this wasn't an attempt to prove us wrong or prove your point? Why say it then?

 

[KeEpEr]

So this wasn't an attempt to prove us wrong or prove your point? Why say it then?

Just to show you how it was done Wednesday.

 

[DownEastDeac]

I stand corrected. This would be three points.

And I stand amazed (actually I'm sitting down right now, but getting ready to stand while heating up a Pop Tart)

 

[DistrictDeacon]

I stand corrected. This would be three points.

So what's the difference between the defender tipping the ball on the release, and Zeller tipping it in the paint. Shouldn't they both be scored as threes?

 

[KeEpEr]

So what's the difference between the defender tipping the ball on the release, and Zeller tipping it in the paint. Shouldn't they both be scored as threes?

If the opponent is standing inside the arc it is scored a two regardless of where the ball was released.

 

[bojanglefunk]

Just to show you how it was done Wednesday.

Ha. You know you were using to argue and got backed in a corner. The official scoring had already been covered several times.

 

[KeEpEr]

Ha. You know you were using to argue and got backed in a corner. The official scoring had already been covered several times.

Just trying to answer your question sir or madam.

 

[DistrictDeacon]

If the opponent is standing inside the arc it is scored a two regardless of where the ball was released.

So which ref is watching the defender's feet to see if he jumped from behind or infront of the arc before he tipped the 3-point shot?

 

[TheReff]

This is as rational as I can get. I think they scored it correctly and was interested in other opinions. The UNCCH scorer I think did it correctly. The reffs don't care as long as two points are awarded to the offensive team. The scorer could give the basket to the janitor for all they cared.[/QUOTE]

True. All the officials want to do is make sure it was scored properly for the offensive team and that it was just 2 points since it was not goal tending or basket interference of a 3 point shot by the defense.

 

[KeEpEr]

So which ref is watching the defender's feet to see if he jumped from behind or infront of the arc before he tipped the 3-point shot?

I guess it is where the ball is touched not where the defender's feet are. I'll check and get back on this.