ESPN: Danny Manning considered for WFU job, meets with Wellman 3/31/14

[Brangus]

We just spent a pissload of money to purchase the Joel, plan to spend a pissload more to "Deaconize" it or whatever, and we're going to put a rookie coach with one decent season behind us? If we hire Manning we need "FireRonWellman.com" up and spewing bile the next day.

 

[vadimivich]

I don't get Georgia Tech. They should be a sleeping giant, just waiting for the right investment.

It's a football school through and through. The fan support just isn't there to push basketball to where it should be.

It's funny because GT's ceiling in hoops is far, far higher than it is in football.

 

[Milhouse]

lots of nerds

 

[PhDeac]

We just spent a pissload of money to purchase the Joel, plan to spend a pissload more to "Deaconize" it or whatever, and we're going to put a rookie coach with one decent season behind us? If we hire Manning we need "FireRonWellman.com" up and spewing bile the next day.

Well you couldn't expect much from the people who were behind [Redacted] and decided his regime was the right time to buy the Joel, invest in the Joel, and start a billion dollar capital campaign.

 

[thedeacfan]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...est-meets-with-tulsa-head-coach-danny-manning

looks like we might get our new coach soon.

To hell with Ron Wellman and his LOWF approach to his job. If Wake does not hire Shaka, Marshall, or Howland; it is because of Ron Wellman. Either he blew the search or he (as an AD) is such damaged goods that no really good coach is willing to work for him even if he drives up in a loaded Brink's truck.

It past time for the "powers that be" to figure out just how bad the AD situation is. Maybe they are finally realizing that their AD was pulling the wool over their eyes to cover up his incompetence.

If Shaka is the guy you think he is, then he understands what and why Wellman was doing what he did the past 4 years and knows all about Wake's bball history. I'm sure he also appreciates an AD that supports his coaches even when under fire, which is a perspective you and a lot of others completely ignore in this entire saga (even though it underpins a lot of Wellman's actions). If Shaka doesn't get all that, then IMO he's not the guy we want. I seriously doubt he doesn't get it though.

You may be right about the phrase in bold. Shaka may have picked up the phone and called Dino who "explained" Ron Wellman in detail. So it is possible that Shaka "understands", and it's therefore "understandable" that he would refuse to work for a dishonest, incompetent AD.

The rest of your post is enabler bullshit.

 

[Say Hey Deac]

Not about swaying Wellman you Fuck, just about not being LOWF and accepting less than a Howland, Mack, etc.

I know just how to do this:

Chloroform, duct tape, blindfold and trunk of car to Winston-Salem.

Pistol whip, electrodes to the nuts, and threats to coach's kids until he signs the contract.

We keep him locked in tunnel under Babcock except for practices and game days.

DONE. Homerun hire achieved! Why didn't Wellman think of this earlier before settling on Manning?

 

[RJKarl]

To hell with Ron Wellman and his LOWF approach to his job. If Wake does not hire Shaka, Marshall, or Howland; it is because of Ron Wellman. Either he blew the search or he (as an AD) is such damaged goods that no really good coach is willing to work for him even if he drives up in a loaded Brink's truck.

It past time for the "powers that be" to figure out just how bad the AD situation is. Maybe they are finally realizing that their AD was pulling the wool over their eyes to cover up his incompetence.



You may be right about the phrase in bold. Shaka may have picked up the phone and called Dino who explained Ron Wellman in detail. So it is possible that Shaka understands, and it's therefore understandable that he would refuse to work for a dishonest, incompetent AD.

The rest of your post is enabler bullshit.

Shaka was 100% there for our taking. It's ALL on Wellman.

 

[Strickland33]

We just spent a pissload of money to purchase the Joel, plan to spend a pissload more to "Deaconize" it or whatever, and we're going to put a rookie coach with one decent season behind us? If we hire Manning we need "FireRonWellman.com" up and spewing bile the next day.

meh. If anybody did that, then y'all would find some way to complain about it.

 

[Brangus]

Complain about it? Shit I'd help pay for it.

 

[Brendan207]

Wake isn't chock full of "basketball tradition" like many of our fans seem to think it is, but we can do better than Manning. Manning's resume is thinner than Buzz's.

Spot on. Yes, we have some AMAZING basketball memories. But almost every school does.

Is Manning turning us down?

 

[Lectro]

Shaka was 100% there for our taking. It's ALL on Wellman.

Baloney!

 

[IckerDeac]

Let's just say the landscape has changed in college basketball. Winning as a mid-major is more common and not all coaches are clamoring to get into the ACC. It isn't as easy as rolling out 3M...you have to actually convince coaches life will be a lot better at Wake vs. their current situation. I know I'll be called LOWF...etc. but this is not only the reality for WFU, it is the reality for all the non-premeir programs (see Marquette).

 

[D4L]

Reading the article in the Tulsa World, it looks like to me that Manning is fishing for a pay raise from his current employer.

I have no idea who RW is going to hire (Personally, I am hoping for Howland only because I think Marshall and Smart are pipe dreams), but who ever he is, he could not possibly be any worse than the last guy.

Marquette hiring a current Assistant does not bode well IMO. Perhaps ultimately, that is the direction we will head in. Smart was an Assistant until someone took a shot at him. Marquette's two hires before Wojo were also Assistants. We could do worse than Manning from a splashy hire standpoint. We really could.

 

[IckerDeac]

Shaka was 100% there for our taking. It's ALL on Wellman.

What is your speculation as to why he failed? Offered too little? I am just curious because I keep seeing posts like this and I'd like to understand exactly what should have been done.

 

[pourdeac]

You may be right about the phrase in bold. Shaka may have picked up the phone and called Dino who explained Ron Wellman in detail. So it is possible that Shaka "understands", and it's therefore "understandable" that he would refuse to work for a dishonest, incompetent AD.

The rest of your post is enabler bullshit.

It's sorta fun watching you guys troll yourselves into absurdity.

 

[RJKarl]

RW's personality, style, rep. The fact he's not going to be here through the first contract.

This is a dream job for Shaka. It's everything he has wanted for years. It's small, quality education, a community that he and his family can be a part of and top bball.

With the bucks we have to spend, it should be the no brainer of all no brainers.

My fear is RW put $3M/year for 7-10 years on the table and said "take it or leave it" and pissed Shaka off. $3M was a good place to start, but there was more in our back pocket. I'm worried that RW's ego got in the way like Pete Dalis did at UCLA over and over again.

 

[Say Hey Deac]

Rjkarl.....duuuuuuude.

 

[pourdeac]

What is your speculation as to why he failed? Offered too little? I am just curious because I keep seeing posts like this and I'd like to understand exactly what should have been done.

From what I can tell, there are two versions of blaming Wellman. One seems to be we had no chance with Shaka to start with because Wellman supported Bz....which is bizarre and contrary to rumors Shaka actually took the offer seriously (and may still be). The second is that Shaka was there for the taking and Wellman just f'd it up because he waited...which is also strange given the serious offer we heard about. We may have been able to lure him to Wake by giving him 5m or something like that because it's "the best job that'll open in the next 5 years" (I read somewhere), but I'm not sure throwing money at Shaka would make much sense either. He's still a risk at this level and location. People can certain foam at the mouth over it I guess since it's not their budget.

 

[IckerDeac]

Thanks for the reply. I can just say its a lot more complicated than money and RW himself. There is an unfortunate reality in college basketball that most schools are not no-brainer upgrades over the high mid-majors.

 

[WFFaithful]

To hell with Ron Wellman and his LOWF approach to his job. If Wake does not hire Shaka, Marshall, or Howland; it is because of Ron Wellman. Either he blew the search or he (as an AD) is such damaged goods that no really good coach is willing to work for him even if he drives up in a loaded Brink's truck.

It past time for the "powers that be" to figure out just how bad the AD situation is. Maybe they are finally realizing that their AD was pulling the wool over their eyes to cover up his incompetence.



You may be right about the phrase in bold. Shaka may have picked up the phone and called Dino who explained Ron Wellman in detail. So it is possible that Shaka "understands", and it's therefore "understandable" that he would refuse to work for a dishonest, incompetent AD.

The rest of your post is enabler bullshit.

Please let Shaka leak this out. He could help us out a little even if he doesn't want to be our coach.