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Stand back, there's a hurricane coming: vs. Miami tonight

Would certainly like to see us win more than one in a row before I start to believe we are on back on track this year. With the ACC, as it is, that Clemson game really can haunt us this year (i.e. 3-3 and we'd feel pretty good right now).
 
Deac83 said:
Would certainly like to see us win more than one in a row before I start to believe we are on back on track this year. With the ACC, as it is, that Clemson game really can haunt us this year (i.e. 3-3 and we'd feel pretty good right now).
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Big opportunity in Raleigh Saturday against a very beatable State team. I agree last night was a game we had to have, it plugged the hole in a sinking ship, going to need start stringing some together to get back on track though.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Last night was a very good performance. Came out strong to start both halves, responded well whenever Miami made a run. The thing that still bothers me is letting teams get back into the game. I know that basketball is a game of runs and I know that you rarely can dominate a team that is fairly even with you for 40 minutes, but we were up 20+ points in the 2nd half and I think they got to within 6. I know that's going to happen sometimes, but with us it seems to happen about everytime, LSU being the one exception this year. Just wish when we get up 20+ points like that, the other team's "run" would only cut it to 12 or so instead of 6 points with enough time remaining that we could've lost. All that said, we had to have that game last night and after a week off the team responded really well and it looked like Danny and the staff did some good work since the UNC game.
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Good teams get back into games after getting down big (see our game against Carolina).

Miami is one of the better defensive teams in the country. I'm not surprised at all that we struggled with our press.

I really don't understand how people simultaneously think that we should be playing like a top 15 team and that Manning definitely isn't the answer going forward.
 
I lucked into pretty good seats last night (Section 119, Row B), and it was really interesting watching Brandon's facial expressions throughout the game. Looks a lot like his father used to look.


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Fuck Your Couch said:
happy for the win, sad for the state of cbb

whistle, whistle, whistle, whistle, FGA, whistle, whistle, TV timeout, whi...
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This is a bad tendency by officials. What really bugged me was when the same official called double fouls on Dinos and the guy guarding him and did this twice in a minute-- come on, that is a cop out at best. If there is a foul, call it. If players are fighting for position, then let them fight for position.
 
RChildress107 said:
Good teams get back into games after getting down big (see our game against Carolina).

Miami is one of the better defensive teams in the country. I'm not surprised at all that we struggled with our press.

I really don't understand how people simultaneously think that we should be playing like a top 15 team and that Manning definitely isn't the answer going forward.
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I don't really think either of those, but I do think when you're up 20+ in the 2nd half, it shouldn't just be accepted that the other team makes a run that cuts the lead to 6. Yes, that is going to happen sometimes, but it happens to us with too frequently and it will cost you games.
 
One thing that really impressed me last night was Lil' Chill's press breaking ability. He's probably our best bball handler. I love that he can recognize when the double team is coming and split the defenders rather than hold onto the ball and try to dribble around them. Every time he split the defenders the press broke down immediately.
Mitch also played a great game last night. If we can get the types of contributions from him and Chill like the UNC and Miami games then we will be in good shape moving forward.


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liveanddiedeac said:
I don't really think either of those, but I do think when you're up 20+ in the 2nd half, it shouldn't just be accepted that the other team makes a run that cuts the lead to 6. Yes, that is going to happen sometimes, but it happens to us with too frequently and it will cost you games.
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The only teams that get up big on top 30 teams and don't routinely let those teams back into the game are top 15 teams. So it logically follows from what you just said that you think we should be a top 15 team.
 
RChildress107 said:
Good teams get back into games after getting down big (see our game against Carolina).

Miami is one of the better defensive teams in the country. I'm not surprised at all that we struggled with our press.

I really don't understand how people simultaneously think that we should be playing like a top 15 team and that Manning definitely isn't the answer going forward.
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You don't understand how people who think we should be playing better would think coaching is a problem?
 
Deacsfan27 said:
I've never seen back-to-back double fouls before. First time for everything.
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siff said:
It was a compete joke. I agree that officiating is ruining college basketball.
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That's 3 double fouls called on us in the span of two games. That has to be unprecedented. It's impossible to play defense in CBB anymore. I actually felt bad for Miami during one of our stretches. Every touch is a foul. It ended up going both ways, but yikes the game is hard to watch these days.
 
RChildress107 said:
The only teams that get up big on top 30 teams and don't routinely let those teams back into the game are top 15 teams. So it logically follows from what you just said that you think we should be a top 15 team.
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No, I think when having a night where we're playing really well and have a sizable lead, we need to learn how finish without letting the other team back in it to the point they have a real chance to win. When Miami got within 6, there was still enough time left, they had a real chance. Again, it's not this one occurrence, it will happen. Personally I just don't think it has to happen with the regularity we see.
 
PhDeac said:
You don't understand how people who think we should be playing better would think coaching is a problem?
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I don't understand why people would want to abandon a coach that got us to a point where we should be playing like a top 15 team (and are actually playing like a ~top 35 team) in just 2 1/2 years (with mediocre recruiting on paper no less).

Given what he took over that would be pretty much unprecedented and in theory should buy a coach some time for his in game coaching to catch up.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
No, I think when having a night where we're playing really well and have a sizable lead, we need to learn how finish without letting the other team back in it to the point they have a real chance to win. When Miami got within 6, there was still enough time left, they had a real chance. Again, it's not this one occurrence, it will happen. Personally I just don't think it has to happen with the regularity we see.
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Right but if we did what you are asking on a consistent basis we would be a top 15 team. So if you think we should be doing that then you think we should be a top 15 team.
 
wufu bufu said:
That's 3 double fouls called on us in the span of two games. That has to be unprecedented. It's impossible to play defense in CBB anymore. I actually felt bad for Miami during one of our stretches. Every touch is a foul. It ended up going both ways, but yikes the game is hard to watch these days.
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In the past two weeks we have had:

Consecutive games with 5 point possessions (BC and UVA)
Consecutive games with double fouls (UNC, Miami)
Consecutive possessions with double fouls (Miami)

That's pretty rare.
 
RChildress107 said:
I don't understand why people would want to abandon a coach that got us to a point where we should be playing like a top 15 team (and are actually playing like a ~top 35 team) in just 2 1/2 years (with mediocre recruiting on paper no less).

Given what he took over that would be pretty much unprecedented and in theory should buy a coach some time for his in game coaching to catch up.
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A number of posters here get upset at times with substitution patterns, etc..., but I don't think anyone is ready to "abandon" Danny. Very few people, at least. I'll spin it positively: with [Redacted], we knew it could never work and were resigned to ignominy. With Danny, we see potential and some become frustrated when seemingly obvious problems aren't addressed. A win in Raleigh this weekend and everything is lollipops and unicorns again. ;)
 
Moore dominated State last year. Given the past two games of productivity I don't think it's a stretch to think he can have a big game on Saturday.

Anya has struggled immensely, and I think Collins and Moore can punish Yurtseven and Anya on the interior.

Hopefully Bryant will get up for the chance to guard/play against a top 3 draft pick (he did well against Berry), we can limit the drive and kick, and then dominate the inside.
 
RChildress107 said:
Right but if we did what you are asking on a consistent basis we would be a top 15 team. So if you think we should be doing that then you think we should be a top 15 team.
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I think we should be doing that more than we do, which is hardly ever, does that mean I think we should be top 15 team? I mean it's like clock work, against ACC teams especiallly, if we get big leads we let the other team back in it to the point they have a shot to win. Heck, if we had let Miami get within 10 that would've cut 13-14 points off our lead which is enough, but they 17-18 points off our lead in a fairly small time frame. I know I'm nit-picking, last night was really good and I'm proud of the guys. I'd just be nice to see us get up by 20+ and the closest the other teams gets is 10 or 12, when it got down to 6, we were all sweating bullets.
 
BobHWS said:
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'You should get that double-vision checked out, Mr. Referee.'
 
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