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Official 2018 NBA Offseason Thread: the preseason cometh

I'm just glad Cho ultimately didn't trade Kemba and a bunch of our other key BuzzCity #assets for that overrated quasi-Dukie bum.
#atradealmostmade
 
Complacent Deac said:
For the Cavs:
How good is Zizic?
Can they get Michael Porter (honestly don't know)?
This could be a steal of a trade if those 2 end up on the roster and contributing in a year.

For the Celts:
Very good starting 5, love the rotation at 1/2/3 spots with Rozier/Smart/Tatum coming in.

Down low -- Marcus Morris and Horford are soft. Backups are 6'7 rookie Olejeye and Aron Baynes. Baynes isn't soft, but isn't real good either. That's your depth now that crappy Zeller is gone too?.

So, not sure, I guess Cavs really won, but Celts starting 5 could do some real work.
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Bagley is better than Porter.
 
Kyrie is a tough player to judge. He was on a terrible roster while very young until he played alongside the greatest player of the generation and another all-star. A career of extremes.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
Kyrie is a tough player to judge. He was on a terrible roster while very young until he played alongside the greatest player of the generation and another all-star. A career of extremes.
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And whenever he's been on the court without Lebron, the Cavs have been awful, both in terms of W-L record (in games Lebron has sat out) and in +/- (when Lebron is on the bench, but Kyrie is on the court). Count me in the Kyrie is overrated camp - he's basically the pg version of Carmelo.
 
This trade is the type of event you would normally update the thread title for.
 
Cavs are still big favorites unless Thomas' hip is messed up. The more interesting question to me is what could they flip to Nets pick for if it looks like Lebron will actually stay. Say OKC is good but clearly not good enough to contend, and Paul George won't commit to them long term, for example.
 
I guess Lebron approved this trade, but is he really compatible with IT and Jae ?
 
tiltdeac said:
Cavs are still big favorites unless Thomas' hip is messed up. The more interesting question to me is what could they flip to Nets pick for if it looks like Lebron will actually stay. Say OKC is good but clearly not good enough to contend, and Paul George won't commit to them long term, for example.
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Good point. If Lebron stays, he's not going to want to tutor some kid to maybe help him beat the Warriors. He's going to flip it for a sure thing. I'm sure the Rockets would take the Nets pick for CP3 if things don't work out.
 
This trade is a whole lot of meh. I still don't think either of these teams would finish top 4 in the west and neither is positioned to get a ton better anytime soon (after this offseason I'm not convinced Ainge can add another star that would move the needle).

Cavs still win the East as long as Lebron is on the team.

If I'm Lebron though, and I know I'm going to L.A. next year anyway, I look for a trade around the deadline to a contender unless I honestly think my team in Cleveland (either as is or through a trade) can beat the Warriors.

If Lebron goes to the fourth place T-wolves in January and says "trade Wiggins to Cleveland for me, I'll come play for a 5 months and then go to L.A. but I'll bring your franchise a championship," both sides say yes, right?
 
The Cavs would. The T'wolves wouldn't. The Warriors would still be better than the T'wolves and the T'wolves would be giving up their future.
 
PhDeac said:
Good point. If Lebron stays, he's not going to want to tutor some kid to maybe help him beat the Warriors. He's going to flip it for a sure thing. I'm sure the Rockets would take the Nets pick for CP3 if things don't work out.
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Hard to see the Rockets bailing on the CP3/Harden experiment after only 50 games.
 
RJKarl said:
The Cavs would. The T'wolves wouldn't. The Warriors would still be better than the T'wolves and the T'wolves would be giving up their future.
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Butler/Lebron/Towns > KD/Steph/Draymond

And yeah Twolves are giving up their future but will have two legit all stars and some cap space to work with. They could probably sign someone of Wiggins' caliber and come out where they started except with a championship.

I think if you have a shot to beat the Warriors you have to take it. Teague/Butler/Lebron/KAT/Dieng gives them a decent shot
 
You forgot Klay, Livingston. Iggy. You don't gamble your future on a one time maybe.
 
PhDeac said:
Good point. If Lebron stays, he's not going to want to tutor some kid to maybe help him beat the Warriors. He's going to flip it for a sure thing. I'm sure the Rockets would take the Nets pick for CP3 if things don't work out.
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But the Cavs have to trade Love in that scenario to make the salaries work, right? CP3 isn't that much of an upgrade over Love to justify giving up the potential #1 pick.
 
RJKarl said:
You forgot Klay, Livingston. Iggy. You don't gamble your future on a one time maybe.
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Overrated, Overrated, severely underrated but also old.

I disagree. Especially when you aren't necessarily sacrificing your future. I think Wiggins will turn into a good player but he's never going to be more than the third best player on that team as currently constructed.

Grow a pair and put together a roster that can match the Warriors even if only for a year rather than sitting around and hoping Wiggins justifies the max money you are about to give him.
 
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