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Charleston Church Shooting

Philly boy is but hurt. It can't come as a surprise to you that your state is full of ass holes...after all you moved out.

PA does suck, but it is funny to always read the obligatory post from some southerner on threads like this of "I've been to the North and there are racists there too!"

We get it. There are racists everywhere. Southerners gets so defensive when the South gets criticized for being racist. Don't think anybody's saying it was always all rainbows and sunshine for blacks up north, but the South sort of has a bad history in this area as compared to the rest of the country. Kind of have to accept it.
 
PA does suck, but it is funny to always read the obligatory post from some southerner on threads like this of "I've been to the North and there are racists there too!"

We get it. There are racists everywhere. Southerners gets so defensive when the South gets criticized for being racist. Don't think anybody's saying it was always all rainbows and sunshine for blacks up north, but the South sort of has a bad history in this area as compared to the rest of the country. Kind of have to accept it.

That was really not what I was saying. I was more pointing to the fact that the Confederate flag is more a racist symbol and not a regional heritage symbol.
 
rural PA is indeed pretty ridiculous (rural anywhere in NE is ridiculous), but it's pretty dumb to say there are more confederate flags in PA than in the south.
 
Report: Many Mississippi politicians tied to group that radicalized Dylann Roof

http://www.deepsouthdaily.com/2015/...ed-to-group-that-radicalized-dylann-roof.html

A surprising number Mississippi politicians have ties to the white supremacist organization that radicalized Dylann Roof, the gunman who killed nine black churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday night. A list of state leaders with ties to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) includes U.S. Senator Roger Wicker and former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour. The Council describes itself as a group organizing for “the interests of European-Americans” and describes black people as a retrograde species.

“Mississippi is toting a load of fat blacks on welfare,” the Council’s website once read. “Though disgust is a natural reaction when some blubbery welfare queens buys her pork chops and cream pies with food stamps, remember that the government is subsidizing this gluttony.”

On another occasion, the CCC railed against gay people in an editorial.
“If the South seizes upon queer marriage and beheads that serpent, then a new era for States Rights will commence,” the Council wrote. “By the Grace of God, queer marriage may be the petard upon which Brown v. Topeka (the 1954 U.S. Supreme Court decision that desegregated public schools), and all other pernicious civil rights regulations, will be blasted down the memory hole.”


While both of those quotes were reported on in 2004, the CCC continues to use similar rhetoric today. The blog for the Mississippi Council of Conservative Citizens includes headlines from this decade such as, “Niggers Stir Up Racism in Pearl High School,” “Blacks fluck [sic] or have to cheat to pass test,” and “Military Homos” (in response to the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell).

Constant headlines from CCC websites led gunman Dylann Roof to commit the Charleston church massacre, he revealed in a manifesto:
“[The Trayvon Martin case] prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens.
There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?”

So who exactly are the Mississippi politicians who have ties to the white supremacist organization? The list of politicians in Mississippi who have participated in CCC events, compiled by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2004, includes 23 Mississippi current and former Mississippi politicians. Of the 23 listed, 15 still hold elected office in Mississippi today.
 
rural PA is indeed pretty ridiculous (rural anywhere in NE is ridiculous), but it's pretty dumb to say there are more confederate flags in PA than in the south.

Can only speak from my experience. And the western PA that I saw all the flags wasn't that rural.
 
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PA does suck, but it is funny to always read the obligatory post from some southerner on threads like this of "I've been to the North and there are racists there too!"

We get it. There are racists everywhere. Southerners gets so defensive when the South gets criticized for being racist. Don't think anybody's saying it was always all rainbows and sunshine for blacks up north, but the South sort of has a bad history in this area as compared to the rest of the country. Kind of have to accept it.

BINGO.
 
My parents moved near Oakwood Cemetery in Raleigh which has the Historic Confederate Cemetery as part of the grounds. I was walking or biking through in late 2014 and there were all kinds of recently-placed decorations and flags. I had a pretty strong visceral reaction to seeing that. It's one thing to have the cemetery, it's another to continue to celebrate it.

I grew up in Raleigh and had several classmates with Confederate flag belt buckles, t-shirts, beach towels, etc. Fucking fuck, man.
 
And of course they could break the law if they wanted, but generally it isn't a good idea to just openly flaunt the law if you're an elected official. Also it provides cover for people who don't actually want to bring the flag down to just say "welp we can't."

Has anyone given Obama that advice about immigration policy? Or corporate bankruptcy law? But I digress.
 
She not only called for the flag to come down she said she will hold the state house in session until they vote on it.

SC catches a lot of abuse, but contrast Nikki's Haley's speech with TX Governor Greg Abbott directly pandering to conspiracy loons about military maneuvers. Nikki made MO and MD Govs look bad. Undercut Huck, Cruz, and Walker for weaseling out.
 
This whole thing would be great if someone just buys a drone and then burn the fucking flag down, how hard is that.

I'd laugh then be a little scared that someone has gotten that good at piloting drones to commit arson.
 
SC catches a lot of abuse, but contrast Nikki's Haley's speech with TX Governor Greg Abbott directly pandering to conspiracy loons about military maneuvers. Nikki made MO and MD Govs look bad. Undercut Huck, Cruz, and Walker for weaseling out.

You da real VP, Nikki.
 
There is a gigantic confederate flag right on 95 near Fredricksburg. It's fairly shocking.
 
Flags don't kill people, but guns do.

The NRA has to be happy once again that there is now debate about a side issue, i.e. the Confederate flag this time, mental illness other times, rather than the regulation of firearms.
 
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