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TBR said:
If Wake can't afford to pay either its head football coach or its head basketball coach more then $1M than we need to get the hell out of division 1 athletics and stop wasting money and embarrassing ourselves.
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FIFY
 
FckVwls said:
Buckets: Is it your best guess that we have moved on to Clawson and Lembo-to-Wake is dead? Or just impossible to tell w/ Wellman at the controls?
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I will be complete honest, I don't know. It has been radio silence since Friday night.

I know we had a ton of momentum going into Thursday's interview. We wanted Lembo, Lembo wanted Wake Forest. The silence certainly doesn't feel like good news.
 
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING!? Ahhhh, why can't we just do things correctly and efficiently like other schools??? Just. Make. It. Happen.
 
TexasDeac10 said:
I do wonder if Wellman is tossing out these low ball offers because we don't have the funds to go higher (I find this hard to believe), or because he simply doesn't feel it necessary/prudent at a school like Wake Forest (this is stupid).

Neither of those options are good. If we don't have the funds, that's squarely on Ron's shoulders in several different ways.
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I don't think many of our fans appreciate how tight our budget is compared to other BCS schools. Not only do we have a much smaller fan base to draw funds from (both through tickets and fund raising) compared to the other BCS schools, but we are also at a severe cost disadvantage compared to almost every other school because of WFU's high tuition.

For example, WFU's tuition costs for football alone is over $3.8MM a year (85 Scholarships @ $44K). That is $1.2MM more than UNC (85 @ $30K), and that assumes they all are paying out of state tuition. And UNC is one of the more expensive schools in the ACC, schools like Clemson and NC-State are even less. Once you factor in that we also have to pay for B-Ball, Baseball, Soccer, etc... we are at a multi-million dollar short fall compared to almost every other BCS school that needs to be made up just to stay even with other schools. That really puts a strain on any coaching/facility upgrades we might want to undertake. Yes, other private schools such Duke, Vandy, USC, Northwestern, and Stanford have this same problem, but they also have larger enrollments and have endowments 3.5x or more the size of ours, to help ease the pressure.

Because of this, Wellman might not be low-balling anyone. We just might not have much more than $1.0-1.3MM to spend on a new guy (and honestly I have no idea how we ever afforded Grobe's $2MM a year. My only guess is a couple alums stepped forward to cover the difference).
 
Grobe gets a buyout for voluntarily resigning? WTF? No way. If we're paying him a buy out that means he was pushed out.
 
buckets said:
I will be complete honest, I don't know. It has been radio silence since Friday night.

I know we had a ton of momentum going into Thursday's interview. We wanted Lembo, Lembo wanted Wake Forest. The silence certainly doesn't feel like good news.
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I dont think it is completely dead yet, but the family has been called ...

Hope for the best. Where there is life, there is hope.
 
CallowayKid said:
I don't think many of our fans appreciate how tight our budget is compared to other BCS schools. Not only do we have a much smaller fan base to draw funds from (both through tickets and fund raising) compared to the other BCS schools, but we are also at a severe cost disadvantage compared to almost every other school because of WFU's high tuition.

For example, WFU's tuition costs for football alone is over $3.8MM a year (85 Scholarships @ $44K). That is $1.2MM more than UNC (85 @ $30K), and that assumes they all are paying out of state tuition. And UNC is one of the more expensive schools in the ACC, schools like Clemson and NC-State are even less. Once you factor in that we also have to pay for B-Ball, Baseball, Soccer, etc... we are at a multi-million dollar short fall compared to almost every other BCS school that needs to be made up just to stay even with other schools. That really puts a strain on any coaching/facility upgrades we might want to undertake. Yes, other private schools such Duke, Vandy, USC, Northwestern, and Stanford have this same problem, but they also have larger enrollments and have endowments 3.5x or more the size of ours, to help ease the pressure.

Because of this, Wellman might not be low-balling anyone. We just might not have much more than $1.0-1.3MM to spend on a new guy (and honestly I have no idea how we ever afforded Grobe's $2MM a year. My only guess is a couple alums stepped forward to cover the difference).
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Complete bull shit. Again, we have over $10M more in annual TV revenue than we did 3 years ago. If Wellman managed to burn through that, with nothing to show for it other than a 20 year old sports arena, then he's really bad at his job.
 
CallowayKid said:
I don't think many of our fans appreciate how tight our budget is compared to other BCS schools. Not only do we have a much smaller fan base to draw funds from (both through tickets and fund raising) compared to the other BCS schools, but we are also at a severe cost disadvantage compared to almost every other school because of WFU's high tuition.

For example, WFU's tuition costs for football alone is over $3.8MM a year (85 Scholarships @ $44K). That is $1.2MM more than UNC (85 @ $30K), and that assumes they all are paying out of state tuition. And UNC is one of the more expensive schools in the ACC, schools like Clemson and NC-State are even less. Once you factor in that we also have to pay for B-Ball, Baseball, Soccer, etc... we are at a multi-million dollar short fall compared to almost every other BCS school that needs to be made up just to stay even with other schools. That really puts a strain on any coaching/facility upgrades we might want to undertake. Yes, other private schools such Duke, Vandy, USC, Northwestern, and Stanford have this same problem, but they also have larger enrollments and have endowments 3.5x or more the size of ours, to help ease the pressure.

Because of this, Wellman might not be low-balling anyone. We just might not have much more than $1.0-1.3MM to spend on a new guy (and honestly I have no idea how we ever afforded Grobe's $2MM a year. My only guess is a couple alums stepped forward to cover the difference).
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I don't think you are appreciating the nature of TV money and the Big Six conferences.
 
Deacon923 said:
Grobe gets a buyout for voluntarily resigning? WTF? No way. If we're paying him a buy out that means he was pushed out.
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He was planning to return. He was given a choice. He chose to resign. That choice resulted in a buyout of the remainder of his contract.
 
buckets said:
I will be complete honest, I don't know. It has been radio silence since Friday night.

I know we had a ton of momentum going into Thursday's interview. We wanted Lembo, Lembo wanted Wake Forest. The silence certainly doesn't feel like good news.
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How often do deals not get done when this is the case? I don't follow coaching searches closely, but this seems awfully bizarre.
 
CallowayKid said:
I don't think many of our fans appreciate how tight our budget is compared to other BCS schools. Not only do we have a much smaller fan base to draw funds from (both through tickets and fund raising) compared to the other BCS schools, but we are also at a severe cost disadvantage compared to almost every other school because of WFU's high tuition.

For example, WFU's tuition costs for football alone is over $3.8MM a year (85 Scholarships @ $44K). That is $1.2MM more than UNC (85 @ $30K), and that assumes they all are paying out of state tuition. And UNC is one of the more expensive schools in the ACC, schools like Clemson and NC-State are even less. Once you factor in that we also have to pay for B-Ball, Baseball, Soccer, etc... we are at a multi-million dollar short fall compared to almost every other BCS school that needs to be made up just to stay even with other schools. That really puts a strain on any coaching/facility upgrades we might want to undertake. Yes, other private schools such Duke, Vandy, USC, Northwestern, and Stanford have this same problem, but they also have larger enrollments and have endowments 3.5x or more the size of ours, to help ease the pressure.

Because of this, Wellman might not be low-balling anyone. We just might not have much more than $1.0-1.3MM to spend on a new guy (and honestly I have no idea how we ever afforded Grobe's $2MM a year. My only guess is a couple alums stepped forward to cover the difference).
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you do realize that's not the ACTUAL cost to send anyone to school, right? the actual costs are on the same level across the board for the most part.
 
BabyDeac75 said:
He was planning to return. He was given a choice. He chose to resign. That choice resulted in a buyout of the remainder of his contract.
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WELP that doesn't exactly jive with what we heard in the press conference.

What was the other part of the choice?
 
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