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St. Bonaventure Game Thread - Deacs win 77-62 off to 9-2 start

Confession: I started rooting for Wake Forest in 2008 when I was a freshman. Since that time I attended every home football and basketball game that were not over the holiday breaks as well as numerous away games. I've also had football and basketball season tickets during each of the two years since I have graduated. In addition to that I write for what I think is the only Wake Forest blog on the internet. But neither my parents nor any of my relatives attended Wake, so I guess I'm a terrible fucking fan. My apologies.
 
The time has come, then, Cumberland, to prove your ultimate fanhood: self-imposed exile or GTFO.
 
Confession: I started rooting for Wake Forest in 2008 when I was a freshman. Since that time I attended every home football and basketball game that were not over the holiday breaks as well as numerous away games. I've also had football and basketball season tickets during each of the two years since I have graduated. In addition to that I write for what I think is the only Wake Forest blog on the internet. But neither my parents nor any of my relatives attended Wake, so I guess I'm a terrible fucking fan. My apologies.

#notarealfan

Also, I think it's funny that BKF is questioning fan loyalty considering his current avatar.
 
When does the second semester start? I remember my freshman year (2008-2009) screamin demons were required to go to the carolina game, which was on a sunday even though classes didn't start until wednesday. The carolina game is on sunday the 5th.
 
When does the second semester start? I remember my freshman year (2008-2009) screamin demons were required to go to the carolina game, which was on a sunday even though classes didn't start until wednesday. The carolina game is on sunday the 5th.

I think it's the 14th or 15th (I should probably find out which one at some point)

My freshman year (05-06) the Duke game was similar situation (i think it was actually the first day of classes but we had to get back early to camp out)
 
C'mon, we're four years in and he's over 60. How much more data do we need to make a fair assessment? .
Judging Bz's coaching ability based on what happened when he was TOLD to clean up the program even if it meant taking it to the ground and did, and TOLD that winning was not going to matter, is not fair in the slightest. Same with the time frame. You can't really blame Bz for the longer than normal time frame for a coaching transition when he was TOLD clean up the program from the ground up. That's like comparing a restaurant kitchen remodel by simply installing IKEA cabinets, with discovering the kitchen had water issues and all the foundation beams need to be replaced.......and then acting like he sucks as a restauranteur because the guy across the street did it in 2 days. One takes longer than the other.

What is fair is to judge him on how he coaches the team with his recruited players and that's what he has now. We'll see if recent success has legs. If it doesn't then he will not meet expectations this year and he'll be gone....it's pretty cut and dry. Just let him actually fail fairly by actions if you want him to fail.

I was the first person on either board to point out the crappy rebounding historicals so it's not like I don't know what he's done at other places .
 
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Only caught the second half, but it looked like mediocre basketball by two mediocre teams. The fact that people were salivating over an extra pass proves how low expectations have fallen.
 
Judging Bz's coaching ability based on what happened when he was TOLD to clean up the program even if it meant taking it to the ground and did, and TOLD that winning was not going to matter, is not fair in the slightest. Same with the time frame. You can't really blame Bz for the longer than normal time frame for a coaching transition when he was TOLD clean up the program from the ground up. That's like comparing a restaurant kitchen remodel by simply installing IKEA cabinets, with discovering the kitchen had water issues and all the foundation beams need to be replaced.......and then acting like he sucks as a restauranteur. One takes longer than the other.

What is fair is to judge him on how he coaches the team with his recruited players and that's what he has now. We'll see if recent success has legs. If it doesn't then he will not meet expectations this year and he'll be gone....it's pretty cut and dry. Just let him actually fail fairly by actions if you want him to fail.

I was the first person on either board to point out the crappy rebounding historicals so it's not like I don't know what he's done at other places .

It's a sad day when meeting expectations at Wake Forest means beating a bunch of scrub teams and finishing near .500 in the ACC, while probably being shut out of the post season. Do we need a new term for the step below LOWF?
 
Only caught the second half, but it looked like mediocre basketball by two mediocre teams. The fact that people were salivating over an extra pass proves how low expectations have fallen.
Seriously? Every pre-season prior to Bz when we saw an individual play like that, people talked about it on the boards and got excited, especially a hot and cold player like Travis. Every pre-season prior to Bz we came out of the OOC schedule usually something like 10-2, winning all the cupcakes. Every pre-season prior to Bz we talked about the resiliency of the team when it happened because frankly...Wake teams have a consistent habit of completely folding during the season under every coach I've ever seen and almost annually.

The reaction to this isn't unusual at all, other than it hasn't happened in 3 years. I'm not sure why the bar now has to be way higher.
 
Did you even read pourdeac's post before replying to it? If you did, you certainly couldn't tell it by your reply.

What did you enjoy in 8th Grade, Bob? I dug "Harlem World" by Ma$e, Lil' Penny Hardaway, and lovely, lovely Melanie M. who sat across from me on the school bus.
 
Did you even read pourdeac's post before replying to it? If you did, you certainly couldn't tell it by your reply.

He said that Bz would be judged based on the current expectations. I said it was sad those expectations were acceptable to the AD and many Wake Forest fans. And then you decided to jump in with your gibberish.
 
He said that Bz would be judged based on the current expectations. I said it was sad those expectations were acceptable to the AD and many Wake Forest fans. And then you decided to jump in with your gibberish.

What if the expectation in year 4 is an NCAA appearance? Is that reasonable?
 
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