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Eric Cantor about to lose his primary

BillBrasky said:
Or a modern truth. Nobody STAYS in DC for their constituents, they stay because it's a cake job that will lead to a six figure consulting position once they leave office.

Outside of a few outliers they're all scum. But keeping waiting for your white knight Townie.
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lol..

"SIX FIGURES!"

you're dumber than usual.
 
Most of those guys had six figure jobs before they ever ran for Congress. A lot of them had 7 figure jobs (that means jobs of $1,000,000 or more)
 
TownieDeac said:
what a dumb, self-defeating argument this is
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Why? Is this not happening? Or is that over 50% of congressmen leave office and take these positions? Stop being so obtuse.

And I said six figures to cast a wider net. I'm sure many are in seven figure positions.
 
BillBrasky said:
I hate them both. To this day I wish we had let Wall Street fail in 2008. I'm all for a Raz Ghoul-like reset. Our financial and political system is beyond fucked.
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can't type english, can see through all the bullshit. youre a special one.
 
TownieDeac said:
And if he's really arguing that it's a way of leveraging career to get more $, then you'd jump ship from Congress early to get paid, not stay in it as a career pol. Hence the self-defeating argument.
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Or that it's financially beneficial to stay in congress instead of taking one of those consulting positions. That scares me even more.
 
Yeah, the system is fucked. Change the system and the politicians change. Change the politicians and the system stays the same.
 
There are 535 voting members of Congress plus some delegates and the VP if you're getting technical. I would like Brasky to name 10% of them. Or in the alternative provide evidence that 268 of them are corrupt and unethical.
 
deacphan said:
can't type english, can see through all the bullshit. youre a special one.
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LOLZ always falls back to the same #psf angle.

I may not be able to read and rite real good, but at least Im not a hypocritical shill for the same people you pretend to politically disagree with.

But hey #makebuckets and grow that inequality gap.
 
TownieDeac said:
What? That's the opposite of what you were saying before.
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I'm taking both sides on this one. Stay in Congress and be legally allowed to participate in insider training or lose/retire and get rewarded by DeacPhan's employers with obscene "consulting" contracts.

It's a win-win for their financial interests and a lose-lose for our nation.
 
do you have any idea what my "employers" do or who they are?
 
deacphan said:
do you have any idea what my "employers" do or who they are?
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I believe I have a general idea, but if you would like to elaborate feel free. However Im honestly over it. I was just giving you my usual retort to your go-to personal attack.
 
The punditry has gone berserk over this and is proclaiming that no Republican will now support any form of immigration reform because Cantor was in favor of a mild bit of it and Brat's whole campaign was about "NO AMNESTY EVER." Of course the Republican establishment realizes that if immigration reform is off the table as long as the Republicans hold power, a lot of Latino voters are going to conclude the only way to solve the problem is to make sure Republicans don't have any power any more.



The big disconnect here is that most House Republicans are in extremely gerrymandered districts due to the Republican sweep of the state legislatures in 2010, a midterm election. So they are not afraid to offend Latino voters because there aren't many of them in their districts. But the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. A strategy that works well in individual House districts around the country does not work in presidential elections or increasingly many Senate elections. Also, looking down the road, 2020 is a presidential election year, so the Democrats may sweep the state legislatures then and do the gerrymandering for the following decade.



To put Cantor's loss in perspective, in 2012, Cantor got 220,000 votes in the general election and the Democrat got 160,000 votes. Yesterday Cantor lost by about 7000 votes, 36,110 to 28,898. If 7000 people in a district with 380,000 voters had switched their vote, this "crisis" would not have occurred and the punditry would not be freaking out today. Although Cantor outspent his opponent by more than 25 to 1, he rarely appeared in the Richmond area district and hardly campaigned at all there. It could well be arrogance rather than ideology that did him in.



One consequence of Cantor's defeat could come in fundraising. Cantor was the only Jewish Republican in Congress and a very powerful one at that. When the party wanted to make a fundraising pitch to rich Jews in New York or Los Angeles, guess who went? There is no plan B. In contrast, there are 11 Democratic senators who are Jewish and 21 Democrats in the House who are Jewish. Jewish Republicans are already saying oy veh.
 
Brasky, as someone that leaves/quits/get fired from jobs monthly, can not understand how someone could possible stay in the same position for 10 years, let alone Representative Dingell rocking 50+ years.
 
What percentage of the GOP do you think are Tea Partiers? Had an animated discussion with my dad about it where we completely disagree.

Furthermore, what do you all feel is the best way to identify who is a Tea Partier? We had differing views on that as well. I want to hear some takes before I comment myself and color the discussion a little.
 
DeacWatcher said:
The punditry has gone berserk over this and is proclaiming that no Republican will now support any form of immigration reform because Cantor was in favor of a mild bit of it and Brat's whole campaign was about "NO AMNESTY EVER." Of course the Republican establishment realizes that if immigration reform is off the table as long as the Republicans hold power, a lot of Latino voters are going to conclude the only way to solve the problem is to make sure Republicans don't have any power any more.



The big disconnect here is that most House Republicans are in extremely gerrymandered districts due to the Republican sweep of the state legislatures in 2010, a midterm election. So they are not afraid to offend Latino voters because there aren't many of them in their districts. But the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. A strategy that works well in individual House districts around the country does not work in presidential elections or increasingly many Senate elections. Also, looking down the road, 2020 is a presidential election year, so the Democrats may sweep the state legislatures then and do the gerrymandering for the following decade.



To put Cantor's loss in perspective, in 2012, Cantor got 220,000 votes in the general election and the Democrat got 160,000 votes. Yesterday Cantor lost by about 7000 votes, 36,110 to 28,898. If 7000 people in a district with 380,000 voters had switched their vote, this "crisis" would not have occurred and the punditry would not be freaking out today. Although Cantor outspent his opponent by more than 25 to 1, he rarely appeared in the Richmond area district and hardly campaigned at all there. It could well be arrogance rather than ideology that did him in.



One consequence of Cantor's defeat could come in fundraising. Cantor was the only Jewish Republican in Congress and a very powerful one at that. When the party wanted to make a fundraising pitch to rich Jews in New York or Los Angeles, guess who went? There is no plan B. In contrast, there are 11 Democratic senators who are Jewish and 21 Democrats in the House who are Jewish. Jewish Republicans are already saying oy veh.
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Actually it's not 7000 would have had to change their votes. It's more like 3700.

If 3700 people who voted yesterday= Cantor would have had about 32,600 and the other guy would have had 32,400.
 
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