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Walker & Tabb Suspended Indefinitely Due to Violation of Departmental Rules

"Originally Posted by deacvision7
More goes into coaching than just pure knowledge of Xs and Os.


I'd rather have a coach that relates to his players and gets them to play hard than a coach that knows Xs and Os to the extreme but can't relate to his players and get the most out of them.

Just my feeling, of course."

Except Dino didn't come close to getting the most out of his players.
 
So I assume you were no fan of Dino.

I thought it was time for Dino to go before he got fired. I would not have thought so if I knew how uninspiring his replacement would be.

The state of the program just makes me sad yet angry.
 
Except Dino didn't come close to getting the most out of his players.

Friend, I have never, not once, said that I thought Dino should not have been fired when he was. I had no problem with that move then and continue to have no problem with that move now.

Dino was not the way forward for the program. That does not mean he was worse than what we currently have, however.
 
I blame Dino for recruiting a bunch of knotheads.

That said, it is Bz's job to get this train back on the rails. He has until spring 2013 to get it done.

/endthread
 
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Dino didn't recruit Walker or Stewart, Skip did. Tabb was originally recruited by Dino, but Buzz decided to re-recruit him.

Am I mistaken by any of those facts? You are a lot better at all this than I am.
 
Come on LK! Can you imagine Dino with last year's squad??? LOL.

Would have been better than 8-24, I think. No way to prove that of course. Just an opinion.

Just a few words:

Stetson
Winthrop
NC-Wilmington
Presbyterian

Oh, and 30 point losses to Ga-Tech (twice) and NC State (once.) Those were fun.
 
Come on LK! Can you imagine Dino with last year's squad??? LOL.

Can you imagine Bzzz ever coaching a team with a #1 ranking?

We'll never know for certain if Dino would have done a worse job than Bzzz last year, but it's pretty damn tough to think so given how low Bzzzz set the bar. We're talking one of the worst seasons in the history of this conference.
 
They're both shitty, but I have seen absolutely nothing to indicate Bzzz is a better coach than Gaudio.

Dino was given a Ferrari and he stripped the gears, mangled the transmission, and backed it off a dock and into the ocean where it sank and everyone inside was lucky to get out alive.

[Redacted] was given a Yugo that got toasted by a 2 cylinder Stetson smart car during his first test drive.

Maybe [Redacted] is a worse coach than Dino, but how you could ever discern that before a single recruit of his steps on campus or by the severely flawed talent he had to put on the floor last year is beyond me.

Trying to pin another Ty Walker meltdown during summer school on [Redacted] is pretty hysterical.
 
Dino was given a Ferrari and he stripped the gears, mangled the transmission, and backed it off a dock and into the ocean where it sank and everyone inside was lucky to get out alive.

[Redacted] was given a Yugo that got toasted by a 2 cylinder Stetson smart car during his first test drive.

Maybe [Redacted] is a worse coach than Dino, but how you could ever discern that before a single recruit of his steps on campus or by the severely flawed talent he had to put on the floor last year is beyond me.

Trying to pin another Ty Walker meltdown during summer school on [Redacted] is pretty hysterical.

how could bz have done worse? that's a serious question. name one thing that could have been worse this past season... 0-16 in the acc? that's about it.
 
Dino was given a Ferrari and he stripped the gears, mangled the transmission, and backed it off a dock and into the ocean where it sank and everyone inside was lucky to get out alive.

[Redacted] was given a Yugo that got toasted by a 2 cylinder Stetson smart car during his first test drive.

Maybe [Redacted] is a worse coach than Dino, but how you could ever discern that before a single recruit of his steps on campus or by the severely flawed talent he had to put on the floor last year is beyond me.

Trying to pin another Ty Walker meltdown during summer school on [Redacted] is pretty hysterical.

This is your best post ever. And you have quite a few. I don't re-read and re-laugh at posts ever (except my own). Brilliant post.
 
Can you imagine Bzzz ever coaching a team with a #1 ranking?

We'll never know for certain if Dino would have done a worse job than Bzzz last year, but it's pretty damn tough to think so given how low Bzzzz set the bar. We're talking one of the worst seasons in the history of this conference.

YOU could have done better than Dino did with three Top 20 picks, Ish and other very good players.

[Redacted] or ANY competent coach would have has that team in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 and could have made the Final 4 with a good draw.

[Redacted] would have lit up the scorboard with Ish driving, JJ from the FT line, lobs to Farouq and JT slashing.

That team should have been unstoppable on offense. If a coach put in a pro offense, they would have scored 88-92 ppg. [Redacted] knows how coach NBA offense.

He proved it with the Nuggets and scored a lot with AFA.
 
how could bz have done worse? that's a serious question. name one thing that could have been worse this past season... 0-16 in the acc? that's about it.


I think our record would have been better under Dino. But I think Nikita wouldn't have played at all, Carson wouldn't have started a single game, Chennault wouldn't have played as much, and Terrell would have averaged 20 shots a game and not developed at all. McKie would have taken 3 times as many 3's.

We're in better shape because Channault played, because Nikita went from walking disaster to serviceable by the end of the year, McKie worked hard on his inside game, and Carson struggled but played a ton of significant minutes as a freshman.

I think it pays off a little next year, but a lot over years 3 and 4. I think Dino coached some solid defense, and I think he threw as much talent on the court at all times as possible. But when things didn't work or guys got burned out or one of our stars went cold, there were no adjustments, there was no plan B, no guys on the bench who got minutes early in the year and put it together like UNC did. The few times we were in games late last year, we executed well, threw together some nice plays, and [Redacted] looked in his element. He looked exactly the opposite of how he looks during a presser, for example.

If it doesn't pan out in years 3-4, we fire the guy and go back to the drawing board. I'd give it maybe 50/50 at this point. Who knows. My bar for [Redacted] remains the same as it was on day 1. Some kind of postseason or near miss in year 3, NCAA in year 4. Time will tell.
 
Dino sucking =/= an excuse for Buzz sucking


I really wish people would stop trying to knock down Dino, who sucked, to build up Buzz, who sucks.


And let's not forget in 4 seasons as a BCS head coach Jeff [Redacted] is 1-31 in away conference games and has lost over 20 of those 32 games by 10 or more points.


I'm still wondering what Buzz did before Wake to earn him the job here. Nobody has ever seemed to answer that. Not even Ron Wellman. That worries me.
 
fellas. i've met ty walker.

i've talked to ty walker, i've seen what he has said on social networks, and i've had a friend who was a manager and saw ty walker almost every day.

ty walker is an idiot. he hasn't bulked up, has no post presence, and is a fool. we aren't losing anything.

melvin tabb is a nice guy and funny, but hasn't achieved on the court.

if they are booted off the team all we're giving up is 10 fouls. trust me.

i don't like bzzz, i don't think he's the right fit, but this one isn't his fault. the focus of the conversation begins and ends with the two goofballs who somehow found a way to get into trouble IN THE FIRST WEEK OF SUMMER SCHOOL.
 
Dino was given a Ferrari and he stripped the gears, mangled the transmission, and backed it off a dock and into the ocean where it sank and everyone inside was lucky to get out alive.

[Redacted] was given a Yugo that got toasted by a 2 cylinder Stetson smart car during his first test drive.

Maybe [Redacted] is a worse coach than Dino, but how you could ever discern that before a single recruit of his steps on campus or by the severely flawed talent he had to put on the floor last year is beyond me.

Trying to pin another Ty Walker meltdown during summer school on [Redacted] is pretty hysterical.

Best post of the year! :laugh:
 
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