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News Sources: A Political Divide

The change in young adult voting to elect Clinton and to elect Obama is huge. Clinton did worse with young men than older men.
 
So is Rush exempting his and Fox News' continued assault on Obama's presidency from any and all blame for these shootings?
 
President Obama will use his State of the Union address to call on Congress to raise taxes and fees on the wealthiest taxpayers and the largest financial firms to finance an array of tax cuts for the middle class....
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Deadbolt said:
So conservatives are more effectively preached to than Dems. Got it.
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They absolutely kill it with rhetoric. Pro life is a lot more impactful than pro choice. "Entitlements" is part of the lexicon now.

W (or more likely his team) was a master. "Axis of evil" is an insane thing for a 21st century politician to use in earnest.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
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This chart implies that liberals are more willing to trust almost any news outlet, while conservatives are skeptical of almost every news outlet. Why is one of those positions worthy of scorn and the other isn't? I don't trust most media outlets to be unbiased, INCLUDING Fox News. The chart suggests that overall, Americans are more inclined to trust Fox News than not.
 
DeacDiggler said:
This chart implies that liberals are more willing to trust almost any news outlet, while conservatives are skeptical of almost every news outlet. Why is one of those positions worthy of scorn and the other isn't? I don't trust most media outlets to be unbiased, INCLUDING Fox News. The chart suggests that overall, Americans are more inclined to trust Fox News than not.
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You're assuming:

A) there are an equal distribution of each quintile of political inclination
B) the amount people distrust and trust is in equal portion for yellow and red
 
TownieDeac said:
They absolutely kill it with rhetoric. Pro life is a lot more impactful than pro choice. "Entitlements" is part of the lexicon now.

W (or more likely his team) was a master. "Axis of evil" is an insane thing for a 21st century politician to use in earnest.
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Frank Luntz. "It's not what you say, it's what they hear."
 
DeacDiggler said:
This chart implies that liberals are more willing to trust almost any news outlet, while conservatives are skeptical of almost every news outlet. Why is one of those positions worthy of scorn and the other isn't? I don't trust most media outlets to be unbiased, INCLUDING Fox News. The chart suggests that overall, Americans are more inclined to trust Fox News than not.
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But much less than almost every other news source.
 
TownieDeac said:
They absolutely kill it with rhetoric. Pro life is a lot more impactful than pro choice. "Entitlements" is part of the lexicon now.

W (or more likely his team) was a master. "Axis of evil" is an insane thing for a 21st century politician to use in earnest.
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They're certainly better at distilling their message. I'm not even sure what the Democrat's message is.
 
Deadbolt said:
They're certainly better at distilling their message. I'm not even sure what the Democrat's message is.
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Dems have too much conviction and not enough coaching. Pubs have too much of both.
 
TownieDeac said:
Dems have too many convictions and not enough coaching. Pubs have too much of both.
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Fixed.

That's why they can only follow charismatic leaders like Clinton and Obama and only for about six years.
 
TownieDeac said:
Dems have too much conviction and not enough coaching. Pubs have too much of both.
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Progressives/libs which would include Dems/RINOs don't have much pressure to hone and focus their message, that's their problem. Everything that sounds great and is big government...is great. Big government is the solution to everything. The ideologically opposed groups (conservatives/liberatarians) are under an electron microscope and face intense scrutiny with every twitch. They have become jaded with "the system" and are skeptical of everything. Those differences underlie a lot of what happens and how both sides view the media. Just my take.
 
pourdeac said:
Progressives/libs which would include Dems/RINOs don't have much pressure to hone and focus their message, that's their problem. Everything that sounds great and is big government...is great. Big government is the solution to everything. The ideologically opposed groups (conservatives/liberatarians) are under an electron microscope and face intense scrutiny with every twitch. They have become jaded with "the system" and are skeptical of everything. Those differences underlie a lot of what happens and how both sides view the media. Just my take.
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I'm not sure this is only true for a subset of politicians in today's media cycle. Also don't think social conservatives pass the small govt eye test.
 
Can somebody change the title: "Stupid poors can't buy more money. Thanks, Obama.

Pour, that's a hilariously bad take. Only the dumbest conservatives say things like liberals only want more government. Everybody wants government that benefits their interests.
 
pourdeac said:
Progressives/libs which would include Dems/RINOs don't have much pressure to hone and focus their message, that's their problem. Everything that sounds great and is big government...is great. Big government is the solution to everything. The ideologically opposed groups (conservatives/liberatarians) are under an electron microscope and face intense scrutiny with every twitch. They have become jaded with "the system" and are skeptical of everything. Those differences underlie a lot of what happens and how both sides view the media. Just my take.
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The messaging for conservatives is so well-honed because the media (and of course, the Board Left) is out to get us. Dems enjoy a privilege which permits everything that they do or say to be afforded a presumption of moral purity, since there is no firmer proof of its good-intentions than that they themselves said it. The media is happy to echo these sentiments, and carefully nurtures the Dems* and their message, like an egg which is dangling precariously on the edge of the nest beneath the warming comfort of the brooding hen. So full of promise and purity: nature's perfection in the palm of your hand.

Conservatives, meanwhile, are subject to constant scrutiny. Everything they do, say (or better, don't do, and don't say) is evidence of their moral failings, intellectual inferiority and their well-documented hatred of school children, the environment, international football, public sector employees, young people, old people, young people, the middle aged, gay people, bisexuals, all other previously unenumerated minorities (past, present and future) and in fact the majority of people that are women. For example, when asked an arbitrary and stilted question about history, any correct, responsive answer occurring before 1865 is evidence of endorsement of the institution of slavery, because obviously. The messaging is better because it is constantly under multilateral assault from phalanxes comprised of the forces of empathy, understanding, and of course, true and just compassionate intellect. The hottest fire forges the strongest steal. If you think about it, my fellow conservatives and I are the real victims (P.S. Am I doing it right?).

When Dems' message has to face the voting public, it is kind of like Dook in the NCAAT. All season long coddled by ACC refs and lulled into a false sense of superiority, but when it comes to the big dance, a first round knockout to Mercer 20 minutes from campus.

For one instance among many, how many times would Joe Biden's career have been over were he a Republican? The Dems made him Vice President.
 
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Persecution complex notwithstanding, there's a helluva lot of truth in there, jh.
 
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