Official 2016 Republican National Convention thread

[RJKarl]

It is an interesting pivot for the GOP to acknowledge LGBTQ are humans (sounded like Donald was reading from an eye chart when he was saying that), I'll give them that. Don't know whose votes that'll swing since it brings them up to the 80s at best, and more likely loses them votes. But posturing or no, it is refreshing.

However, Trump only spoke about protecting them in "foreign lands" not in the US. It was more of an attack on Muslims than a support of LGBTQ rights in the US. Had he done that, he would been booed.

Had he said,"IT's time to treat LGTBTQ Americans as full citizens of the US and end all discrimination against them", Dump Trump may have been restored.

 

[WakeandBake]

It just strikes me that the GOP is bereft of good policy ideas, and so there is no candidate who can deliver their shitty ones except people like Trump and Cruz - smarmy egotistical assholes.

Go down the line of party planks, and they all suck. Who's going to lead that shitpile?

 

[TownieDeac]

Thankfully there was no violence in Cleveland. Props to the Cleveland PD. Violent Dem protestors had been playing directly into Trump's hands (and his speech which was written weeks ago). GOP delegates were also a lot smarter than Trump rally goers. They shut down protestors quietly and peacefully. Philly now on the clock...

Philly PD has had a good run lately.

Seems like the biggest stuff they'll have to deal with is some protests at Dilworth Plaza (happens all the time) and I guess be prepared for the unexpected.

 

[WakeandBake]

I heard a GOP supporter on NPR this morning say something to the effect of: "Trump makes a lot of bold statements, and some that are just wrong. But, I don't think he even believes them. He's a non-politician, so that is what you will get. But Hillary, everything she says is planned and vetted, so I don't believe her. She lies."

Can anyone make sense of that?

 

[TownieDeac]

 

[FuckmouthedRube]

It is an interesting pivot for the GOP to acknowledge LGBTQ are humans (sounded like Donald was reading from an eye chart when he was saying that), I'll give them that. Don't know whose votes that'll swing since it brings them up to the 80s at best, and more likely loses them votes. But posturing or no, it is refreshing.

GOP didn't do shit to stop the spread of AIDS in the '80s. Eager beaver Pence wanted to steer funding into gay conversion therapy in 2000, nine years after Magic was HIV positive.

Trump wants and needs to pivot on social issues, but logistics are a mess. Always plays to the crowd, won't have a TV audience that big again until the debate(s?), can't lock Pence away, can't take Ivanka and Junior to every appearance, and can't quit Twitter. OWGs only want to hear the hits, and Trump always delivers.

 

[jhmd2000]

and here comes the pivot...

Indeed. The other poster pivoted from my topic (Obama's record-setting debts). For some reason, he wanted to change the topic. I wonder why.

 

[WakeandBake]

Austerity now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Deacsfan27]

Fact check of lsat night. Needless to say it isn't kind. His stats on crime, illegal immigration, the economy, etc...are all "trumped" up at best, and at its core basically just incorrect/outright lies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-acceptance-speech-at-the-2016-rnc/?tid=sm_tw

 

[jhmd2000]

Senility now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At your service.

 

[LadyDeac03]

Everyone be safe today in the war zone that is the American streets.

Ha. Yeah, one of my friends posted this during the speech "Listening to Trump I'm a little surprised I haven't already been murdered in the streets." Incidentally he lives in Raleigh and one of his friends responded, "Hide in your public bathrooms, I hear they have the most security of any place where you live."

 

[TownieDeac]

Indeed. The other poster pivoted from my topic (Obama's record-setting debts). For some reason, he wanted to change the topic. I wonder why.

GOP brain trust sitting around a room, ostensibly a skull carved into a cliff somewhere in the Pacific.

So...white men. Taxes are down. The economy is back up, while interest rates have stayed low. Jobs back up. We're spending way less in the Middle East. Crime is down. Millions more people are insured. It's gonna be a tough sell. What do we focus on?

CALL JHMD. He always knows what to say.

 

[EatLeadCommie]

It is an interesting pivot for the GOP to acknowledge LGBTQ are humans (sounded like Donald was reading from an eye chart when he was saying that), I'll give them that. Don't know whose votes that'll swing since it brings them up to the 80s at best, and more likely loses them votes. But posturing or no, it is refreshing.

Oh good grief. You guys act like it was a previous GOP talking point to praise the murder of 49 innocent people simply because they are gay and therefore don't matter. Come off it already.

 

[ThinkingWithMyDeac]

What percentage of the crowd last night live in places you just leave your keys in your car like my parents. Such a scary scary country we live in.

 

[jhmd2000]

Oh good grief. You guys act like it was a previous GOP talking point to praise the murder of 49 innocent people simply because they are gay and therefore don't matter. Come off it already.

You're either with identity politics, or you are against it. Townie has no time for your nuance.

 

[TownieDeac]

Oh good grief. You guys act like it was a previous GOP talking point to praise the murder of 49 innocent people simply because they are gay and therefore don't matter. Come off it already.

You're either with identity politics, or you are against it. Townie has no time for your nuance.

There's pretty clearly one political party in the US that has engaged in identity politics with regressive, anti-LGBT legislation over the last few decades. If that offends you, seek a safe space on Rulz's board.

 

[EatLeadCommie]

There's pretty clearly one political party in the US that has engaged in identity politics with regressive, anti-LGBT legislation over the last few decades. If that offends you, seek a safe space on Rulz's board.

So Bill Clinton was a Republican, huh?

 

[RJKarl]

So Bill Clinton was a Republican, huh?

Twenty years ago versus today. It's different. Over the past few years DOZENS of GOP led states tried to enact anti-gay "religious freedom" laws. That's CURRENT.

Currently, there are many GOP led states where you can legally be fired just for being gay.

You can try to deflect to history that has changed, but you can't deny the anti-gay laws your party is still trying to pass.

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

There's pretty clearly one political party in the US that has engaged in identity politics with regressive, anti-LGBT legislation over the last few decades. If that offends you, seek a safe space on Rulz's board.

Oh, you're looking to protect or expand the rights and protections for the LGBTQ community? That's identity politics. Now if you were looking to curtail or roll back rights and protections for the LGBTQ community, that's just constitutionalism and being a good Christian. Thank you for being a patriot.

 

[TownieDeac]

So Bill Clinton was a Republican, huh?

DADT is a helluva lot more progressive than Amendment 1, HB2, etc.

If you want your party to be more socially progressive, good for you. Just don't pretend like the first time a GOP convention acknowledges the human existence of LGBTQ individuals isn't a big deal.