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Ongoing NC GOP debacle thread

From the Appeals court decision, "the new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision."
 
bym051d said:
Fantastic news. Maybe things are turning a corner in NC.
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The Supreme Court has been smacking this legislature down repeatedly. They're still going to keep passing abhorrent laws that discriminate against minority groups. This won't back them down, it'll embolden then. Watch, someone is going to bitch about judicial activism and probably toss in Obama and Cooper for good measure.
 
Deadbolt said:
The Supreme Court has been smacking this legislature down repeatedly. They're still going to keep passing abhorrent laws that discriminate against minority groups. This won't back them down, it'll embolden then. Watch, someone is going to bitch about judicial activism and probably toss in Obama and Cooper for good measure.
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2&2batsignal!
 
jhmd2000 said:
Someone needs to explain to me how that conclusion isn't racist.
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I'll bite.

Are you asking for somebody to explain how the court's ruling isn't racist, or are you asking for somebody to clarify why that particular sentence quoted isn't racist?
 
I think jhmd is saying that sentence is racist because it presumes (concludes?) that AA's are singularly lacking state IDs.
 
I mean we've been having this same argument for years. Conservatives are well aware of the problem, why haven't they pushed a measurement to ensure that everyone has a state ID?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
I mean we've been having this same argument for years. Conservatives are well aware of the problem, why haven't they pushed a measurement to ensure that everyone has a state ID?
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I don't understand why people believe that this problem only uniquely impacts one population. I've never believed a disparate impact existed.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
I mean we've been having this same argument for years. Conservatives are well aware of the problem, why haven't they pushed a measurement to ensure that everyone has a state ID?
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Didn't they? I'm serious. I remember reading that that was a condition of the passage of the law in the first place.
 
jhmd2000 said:
What's the other conclusion?
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Explanation:

It noted that the legislation was passed as African American voter turnout had expanded to almost the rates of whites, and that the legislature enacted the legislation after the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act, which had required North Carolina to seek federal approval for changes to its voting policies. The appeals court -- citing a lower court's findings -- pointed out that state lawmakers sought data breaking down voting practices by race. The judges said that the law's provisions singled out the practices disproportionately popular among African Americans, such as preregisteration and provisional voting.

"The district court found that not only did SL 2013-381 eliminate or restrict these voting mechanisms used disproportionately by African Americans, and require IDs that African Americans disproportionately lacked, but also that African Americans were more likely to 'experience socioeconomic factors that may hinder their political participation,'" the opinion said.
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jhmd2000 said:
Someone needs to explain to me how that conclusion isn't racist.
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Because it's factual:

It noted that the legislation was passed as African American voter turnout had expanded to almost the rates of whites, and that the legislature enacted the legislation after the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act, which had required North Carolina to seek federal approval for changes to its voting policies. The appeals court -- citing a lower court's findings -- pointed out that state lawmakers sought data breaking down voting practices by race. The judges said that the law's provisions singled out the practices disproportionately popular among African Americans, such as preregisteration and provisional voting.
 
http://www.wral.com/federal-appeals-court-overturns-nc-voter-id-law/15887722/#BovPK6bTH1yPsoh3.99

"In North Carolina, restriction of voting mechanisms and procedures that most heavily affect African Americans will predictably redound to the benefit of one political party and to the disadvantage of the other. As the evidence in the record makes clear, that is what happened here," Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel.

The judges noted that, before passing VIVA, state lawmakers obtained data broken down by race on the use of various voting practices, such as early voting and same-day registration, and used the law to target those practices to target black voters "with almost surgical precision."

"Using race as a proxy for party may be an effective way to win an election. But intentionally targeting a particular race’s access to the franchise because its members vote for a particular party, in a predictable manner, constitutes discriminatory purpose," Motz wrote. "A state legislature acting on such a motivation engages in intentional racial discrimination in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment and the Voting Rights Act."
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