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Respect & Patriotism vs. Free Speech & Protest

He'd like you to think it is because he's so large-hearted he cares about the bigger picture. It's just smoke and mirrors for the devastating lack of ideas his party has for actual policy.

That's not quite fair to jhmd, he may want to cut government benefits but he also wants #communitygardens
 
I am not at all sure that black people are protesting more now than they were in the 50s and 60s. I don't know how one quantities such things, but a little objective knowledge of history helps. Sounds like an old man shakes fist at cloud situation to me.

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May not be more protest than 50's and 60's but more than the 90's and 2000's.
 
Not so good. Would have preferred a different outcome. Such is life.

Eh at least it want Tulane.

It is sweet seeing all the wal-mart and country-club fans who were sure Trubisky would be better than Williams eat crow.
 
May not be more protest than 50's and 60's but more than the 90's and 2000's.

Exactly....and with less justifiable reasons. And the protests mainly began in the 60s. There weren't that many protests going on in the 50s. And the protests in the 60s were definitely more justified than the BLM crap today. It should actually be a crime to even talk about the two situations as if there was some kind of comparison. People protesting in the 60s had legitimate gripes. Very serious ones. Today, in spite of isolated cases that the media & other agitators like to constantly dwell upon, if it wasn't for crime...petty and otherwise...there wouldn't be all that much to protest about regarding the police. The police have just been driven to the breaking point from constantly having to deal with guns, gangs & drugs in the inner cities which have become virtual war zones in many areas. In fact, I don't see how they get anyone at any price to take a job as a policeman in these areas. And now the Democrats are effectively acting as enablers in the assassination of police officers by their tacit endorsement of groups who openly spew their hatred & animosity toward the police. It will never happen, of course, but the police should just pull completely out of the major cities for about a month and let the gangs patrol the cities, since the people the police are trying to protect don't appreciate anything they are doing. Maybe some of the people on this board could help patrol some of these cities, since they don't seem to have anything else to do except post on a message board all day and they are also constantly bitching about the police. RJ could get off his lazy fat ass and help patrol LA, for example. PH could help out down in Florida. He despises the police...and has all the answers. And he should have plenty of time. He's supposed to be working a full-time job and raising a family, but he's still had time to make more than 1,000 posts per month on this message board every month for the last 5 1/2 years. That's averaging more than 30 posts every day for more than 5 years. Numbers could help out in Boston and Townie in Philadelphia. None of them think that the police are worth a damn....and all of them have all of the answers.
 
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Exactly....and with less justifiable reasons. And the protests mainly began in the 60s. There weren't that many protests going on in the 50s. And the protests in the 60s were definitely more justified than the BLM crap today. It should actually be a crime to even talk about the two situations as if there was some kind of comparison. People protesting in the 60s had legitimate gripes. Very serious ones. Today, in spite of isolated cases that the media & other agitators like to constantly dwell upon, if it wasn't for crime...petty and otherwise...there wouldn't be all that much to protest about regarding the police. The police have just been driven to the breaking point from constantly having to deal with guns, gangs & drugs in the inner cities which have become virtual war zones in many areas. In fact, I don't see how they get anyone at any price to take a job as a policeman in these areas. And now the Democrats are effectively acting as enablers in the assassination of police officers by their tacit endorsement of groups who openly spew their hatred & animosity toward the police. It will never happen, of course, but the police should just pull completely out of the major cities for about a month and let the gangs patrol the cities, since the people the police are trying to protect don't appreciate anything they are doing. Maybe some of the people on this board could help patrol some of these cities, since they don't seem to have anything else to do except post on a message board all day and they are also constantly bitching about the police. RJ could get off his lazy fat ass and help patrol LA, for example. PH could help out down in Florida. He despises the police...and has all the answers. And he should have plenty of time. He's supposed to be working a full-time job and raising a family, but he's still had time to make more than 1,000 posts per month on this message board every month for the last 5 1/2 years. That's averaging more than 30 posts every day for more than 5 years. Numbers could help out in Boston and Townie in Philadelphia. None of them think that the police are worth a damn....and all of them have all of the answers.

Awesome, turn yourself in then.
 
I'm guessing LAPD isn't hiring 60+ yo cops. By the way, Winston is closer to G'Boro than I am to LA.
 
I'm guessing LAPD isn't hiring 60+ yo cops. By the way, Winston is closer to G'Boro than I am to LA.

Once they see your ball skills, I am sure they will wave the age restrictions.
 
What a lot of people aren't talking about is the egregious acts by DAs around the country. In St. Louis (home county to Ferguson), the DA doesn't cops. Here in Orange County, the DA so egregiously and illegally uses snitches to convict and even frame defendants that many have called for a DOJ investigation.

OC would be the 30th largest state in population. We'd be bigger than places like Kansas, Nevada and Utah.

Hell, the DA might even free a serial killer because he helped the DA.

http://www.ocweekly.com/news/who-wa...ller-orange-county-da-tony-rackauckas-7228296

I doubt he is unique.
 
The thing is, black people had a hell of a lot more to protest about years ago than they have now....but the level of protesting has exploded upward in recent years. There has been an inverse relationship between the level of legitimate cause for protest and the level of the amount of protest. I can only attribute that anomaly to the level of identity politics in the country today.

Hey guys, your problems aren't as bad asthey once were so suck it up and deal with it.
 
Hey guys, your problems aren't as bad asthey once were so suck it up and deal with it.

I know you meant that as an insult, but it is actually pretty good advice. Dealing with problems invariably produces better results than just bitching about them.

And when "you" deal with a problem, by definition that means you have to do something yourself, rather than just expecting someone else to solve your problems for you.

Of course you understand that....because you are now advising people to deal with their problems.
 
Are you suggesting it is the responsibility of black people to solve the problem of racial bias?
 
ITT a guy still pissed about a coach's resignation tells black people to act right and move on
 
So this kneeling during the anthem is taking off.

USWNT star Megan Rapinoe during a Seattle Reign game.
http://www.espn.com/espnw/sports/ar...-francisco-49ers-quarterback-colin-kaepernick

On Sunday night, women's soccer player Megan Rapinoe followed the example of San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick by taking a knee during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" before her Seattle Reign played the Chicago Red Stars in an NWSL game.
After the game, a 2-2 draw, Rapinoe told American Soccer Now that her action was "a nod to Kaepernick."

"I am disgusted with way he has been treated and the fans and hatred he has received in all of this," Rapione told espnW's Julie Foudy. "It is overtly racist. 'Stay in your place black man.' Just didn't feel right to me. We need a more substantive conversation around race relations and the way people of color are treated."


Rapinoe added: "We are not saying we are not one the greatest countries in world. Just need to accept that [it is] not perfect, things are broken.


"And quite honestly being gay, I have stood with my hand over my heart during the national anthem and felt like I haven't had my liberties protected, so I can absolutely sympathize with that feeling."


Rapinoe said she will continue to kneel in every match going forward.

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Are you suggesting it is the responsibility of black people to solve the problem of racial bias?

No. I'm suggesting that racial bias is far down the list of real problems that black people need to address. As jhmd as said several times, people need to first focus on correcting problems which they can directly control....but you and the other liberals on this board don't like to talk about that. You would rather just play the race card, which you use kind of like a "get out of jail free" card.
 
No. I'm suggesting that racial bias is far down the list of real problems that black people need to address. As jhmd as said several times, people need to first focus on correcting problems which they can directly control....but you and the other liberals on this board don't like to talk about that. You would rather just play the race card, which you use kind of like a "get out of jail free" card.

very good post
 
Just curious, is a married black person with a job, a high school degree and no kids out of wedlock entitled to protest racial bias? Or do they have to wait until all the other black people are also living BKF/JHMD approved lives?
 
Some of you could stand to read about the effects of disproportionate policing on black communities. I would recommend Ghettoside by Jill Leovy.
 
Anyone is free to protest anything they want. They are also free to protest black on black crime. You could too, if you had the courage.
 
No. I'm suggesting that racial bias is far down the list of real problems that black people need to address. As jhmd as said several times, people need to first focus on correcting problems which they can directly control....but you and the other liberals on this board don't like to talk about that. You would rather just play the race card, which you use kind of like a "get out of jail free" card.

Until you recognize the prevalence of racial bias, and how it makes the monumental task of breaking the cycle even greater, then we're at an impasse.

Two examples of racial bias:

1. The systematic destruction of black voting power though the use of voting rules and restrictions.
2. Look at local public school buildings in Winston-Salem. Compare the predominately white schools with the predominately minority schools.

P.S. It is quite interesting that you chose to use the term "get out of jail free" to describe racial bias.
 
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