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The new rules for tipping

2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
What the hell is a bottle shop? I'm going to guess it belongs on the pretentious thread.
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It's a place in a strip mall where bros spend $3.75 per bottle of beer, which have been neatly separated by style. When you check out, you pick 6 or so that you like and take them to the register in re-purposed empty six packs.

They are usually located adjacent to grocery stores that sell the same thing, except for $1.50 per bottle, with no re-assembly required.
 
jhmd2000 said:
It's a place in a strip mall where bros spend $3.75 per bottle of beer, which have been neatly separated by style. When you check out, you pick 6 or so that you like and take them to the register in re-purposed empty six packs.

They are usually located adjacent to grocery stores that sell the same thing, except for $1.50 per bottle, with no re-assembly required.
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Lol not exactly. Any decent "bottle shop" is going to have far more selection than a grocery store. And most will have selections on tap so that you can drink while you shop.
 
Are there Total Wines and More in NC? I guess they can't sell booze, but they have thousands of kinds of beer and wine.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
So, ayo, if you go to a bar for a couple hours and drink four bottles of beer, do you tip $0?
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I'll give like 12-15% in that case. I do it more for capacity reasons than the "work" the bartender did for me. My butt in the stool for an extended period of time in a crowded bar equals potential lost sales from the schmo who comes in and wants to sit at the bar and drink and eat but there isn't a seat (especially if my orders are lagging behind my time there).

CreamyGoodness said:
No, because he makes a (somewhat) living wage. Bartenders are relying on their tips to make their nut. Granted, I've been a bartender and waiter at separate points in my life, so maybe I have a soft spot for those guys. My rule of thumb is 20% for a beer, a full meal, or anything else at a bar/restaurant, unless the service is god awful. If I sit at a bar and drink 10 domestic beers, I better be ready to shell out a buck per.
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I completely empathize with the service industry. I just think they should be guaranteed a living wage and not have their livelihood rely on the arbitrary opinions of the customers (as well as how busy the place is). If restaurants have to change their business model and some can't keep up as a result, then so be it. And if happy-go-lucky people want to give a small tip because of excellent service even though servers are making living wages, then have at it. But tipping automatically is just stupid.


With all that said, I'm not really a big drinker and certainly not a bar regular anywhere.
 
Tipping a dollar a beer will generally come out to be more than 20% unless you're buying $6+ beers. Which could very well be the case if you're in an expensive city. If I'm paying cash, dollar per beer. If I've got a tab, 20% minimum but usually more.
 
Is there any who tips more than $1 on a $6 beer? Do people really pull out change for cash tips?
 
PhDeac said:
Is there any who tips more than $1 on a $6 beer? Do people really pull out change for cash tips?
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I've tipped $2 or $3 on a six dollar beer a number of times. Especially if the service was special it is a bartender I know well.

As someone who's done my time in the service industry, I know for certain that staff remember regular tippers good and bad. And the good ones often do get better-than-normal service.
 
Which is one of the main arguments against tipping. It encourages servers to favor people they believe will give the bigger tips.
 
PhDeac said:
Which is one of the main arguments against tipping. It encourages servers to favor people they believe will give the bigger tips.
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I don't disagree. And in practice, that's exactly what happens.

I'm a fan of the "co-op" model in which all employees are part owners, everyone is paid a living wage, and tipping is forbidden.
 
wakephan09 said:
I've tipped $2 or $3 on a six dollar beer a number of times. Especially if the service was special it is a bartender I know well.

As someone who's done my time in the service industry, I know for certain that staff remember regular tippers good and bad. And the good ones often do get better-than-normal service.
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How much do you tip on dollar beer night?
 
CantStandYa said:
Yes. Servers and bartenders are often evaluated on their overall tip percentage, especially relative to their peers. If you tip the same on a $15 check as you would on a $30 check, the server looks bad, just because you didn't feel like forking over an extra $3, regardless of their service or your experience. Again, reason #658 why everyone should spend at least some time working in one of these industries.

Also, don't eat at Olive Garden.
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"You should pay more money because somebody else uses a dumb metric"
 
I also don't really think it would be THAT hard to get rid of tipping. Uber did it basically overnight
 
MysteryMen said:
"You should pay more money because somebody else uses a dumb metric"
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Do you actually think American corporate restaurants would pay servers as much as they earn if they added a "service charge" or raised prices?

I doubt many good restaurants would as well. If you are a server and have ten tables per night that average even only $200 each, at 20%, you'd make $400 in tips. Do you actually think that restaurant would pay you $40-50/hour?
 
Maybe do a modified commission system where you get the higher of $8/hr or x% of table sales?
 
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